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Keyword Changes re-indexed?

         

alphacooler

6:48 pm on Feb 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How long does it take google and other SE's to recognize that I changed the keywords on my site so that when people search for a particular term I just optimized for, I will notice a difference? It seems google's Cache picks up the change in a few days, but I don't notice any change in my response to these new keywords.

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5:39 pm on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What part of the site are you changing?

kbba04527

12:47 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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On one of my Sites I did Keyword changes half way through a Deep Crawl (I know, Bad Idea), but alas, all was well, changes hit the next day and walla..

Im flying up Google and am optimized my position for several of the major brands I sell..

I think it all depends on how often Google indexes your site... then about two days after that.

Robert Charlton

5:42 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How long does it take google and other SE's to recognize that I changed the keywords on my site...

alphacooler - A lot depends on what you mean by "changed the keywords." I assume you're not talking about meta keywords, but about meaningful onsite optimization.

It also depends on how big a site you have, what your PR is, what your inbound links are like, how competitive your phrases are, etc. All that said, on some phrases I'll see ranking changes in a week or even sooner (once saw them in several hours), and on others, while the changes may get indexed that fast, ranking changes may take a while. Depends on other ranking factors, when in the indexing cycle I put the content up, etc.

A recent example... On a fairly easy phrase with 500K returns on Google, I put up a new page and 301 redirected an old one (with a different url) to it, since the old one was also showing up in the serps and I didn't want to get 404s on it.

I put the new page up on Feb 10... it shows a Feb 19 cache date on Google, and MSN has a fresh date in the serps of Feb 22. It's ranking well in both. Yahoo still shows the old page.

Robert Charlton

7:49 pm on Mar 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

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PS to the above...

On late night March 1st, on an existing site, I...
- uploaded a new page
- and updated several pages of the site to include links to it.

The updated pages with the new links were cached in Google and MSN on March 6, and I saw them also in Yahoo on March 7. They all might have been crawled before they were cached.

On today, March 8, the new page is indexed and ranking in Google... hasn't yet appeared in either MSN or Yahoo. So, that's roughly a week from submission to update and indexing the new content for Google. Hope I remember to track the others.

Robert Charlton

7:38 pm on Mar 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Another PS... Last night, on March 21, the new page uploaded on March 1 appeared in MSN with a "fresh date" of 3/20/05, roughly 3 weeks. That's a bit slower than my first example, which appeared in two weeks.

It's not yet in Yahoo.

I should add that I made some changes to this page on March 16, and they're not yet reflected in any of the caches. Google is currently going through some sort of update and has been reported to be showing older caches, so this observation may not be typical of how long it takes Google to refresh a page. From time to time, I've seen changes get cached overnight.