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I was planning on using 10px or 11px for the size of the text in my content pages. Is this size ok to use without penalties? Or is it it too small of a text?
->Q. Is 10px ok to use for my content size?
Thanks fellas for your help:)
I appreciate your input.
Note 1. To preserve readability, a UA applying these guidelines should nevertheless avoid creating font-size resulting in less than 9 pixels per EM unit on a computer display.
Fixed font sizes can be a pain, why not us em's
If you really do not people to read your pages, you'll probably find it cheaper to simply close the site ;)
But seriously, page appearance does matter; readers don't want something they can just about read - they want a page design that is comfortable and welcoming, not agoraphobic.
Well, the reason i wanted to use the smaller text
size was because the index page of a site i'm working on has a lot of content. I tried to shrink the navigation area down so i can fit the content in better but still it needs some more work. I'm trying to fit in a specific paragraph
higher on the page so people can click on the links. It's a menu. But the way i had written the content, placed the Menu area way too far
into the page below and i was thinking that people might not scroll so far down the page to view it.
So what i did was just move the "paragraph and menu" higher into the page, but it sounded kind of funny where i had placed it. You can now view the paragraph better once a visitor lands on the page. Before the paragraph and menu were not visable unless you scrolled way down the page a bit.
The page still has alot of content and i'm still adding more to it. Right now it's up to over
1000 words. The reason, more content better results in my opinion. Of course All unique.
Anyways...I'm not trying to trick the engines
with tiny text or anything, just trying to add more content.
Q.->In your opinions, is it ok to use about 11px-12px in my content pages?
11px is quite readable in my opinion:)
But i have good eyesight;)
I saw one site using around 8px to fit in in more
Well, thanks for your help guys:)
I appreciate your input.
As a general rule, I've found that when you make the font size larger (say at least 12px) you can watch your stats go up. And if you are designing very tight pages where only so many characters will fit, then I would suggest rethinking the design. Scrolling has not been a problem for many years, unless it goes beyond, say, 5 or 6 screens full.
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What is the smallest size that is allowed.
This, in my opinion, is completely the wrong way to look at this. It really is a usability issue, and that to me trumps everything.
I saw one site using around 8px to fit in more content.
If you're thinking that an 8px font is more usable than scrolling, you're not thinking very clearly. ;)
But I hate to use fixed px sizes really small because users can't resize them.
Personally, I wouldn't use anything less than 12px if it's primary content. Even at 12px, depending on the font family, those with a sight disadvantage are going to go somewhere else if they don't know how to adjust their browser font size. We're referring strictly to IE as all the other browsers are able to resize fixed font sizes.
With the higher resolutions being utilized these days, I've now been focusing on using 14, 15 and even 16px font sizes for primary content. When you've got a site showing at 1024x768 and it fills that screen nicely and the font can be read from more than 12 inches away, you're doin' good. ;)
joined:Nov 11, 2000
I've now been focusing on using 14, 15 and even 16px font sizes for primary content...
pageone - I trust your instincts a lot. I'm seeing that on the last site I built, I used 13px Verdana for primary content, and I wasn't fully comfortable about that choice.
I remember feeling that at larger sizes, though, Verdana and Arial don't look as good as at smaller sizes, because they have no thicks and thins and lack weight. At the larger sizes, what fonts do you use?
At the larger sizes, what fonts do you use?
You are correct that at "certain sizes" the fonts become a bit "large".
I've been using verdana, "trebuchet ms", tahoma and of course a default font-family of sans-serif or serif depending on the site.
I like using Arial and Tahoma for headlines, they both look nice and clean at larger sizes. Verdana and Trebuchet for body copy. Verdana gets a bit unruly over 15px and some of it is relative to line-height. The bigger the font, the more line-height. I like white space, easy to read from left to right, top to bottom. No clutter, no "squeezed" in copy. If the page is too long, time to break it up into smaller more succinct pages.
I used 13px Verdana
That's about the norm. I have many sites using 13px verdana for primary body content.