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Learning SEO Recommendations?

Where to start. Books, sources etc.?

         

affgirl

9:38 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Are there any good recommendations for a relative newbie to SE Promotion on how to learn about it and what to do. Like any worthwhile books or ebooks out there or certain sites or web guides and or article pages? I want to jump in with my sites but don't know where to start to even learn what to do. One of my sites gets a couple hundred visitors a day from search engines, but I don't know how to optimize it to increase that and go after high traffic keywords. Any advice on where to start learning will be appreciated.

Leosghost

11:59 pm on Nov 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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bretts 26 steps will do ..there's a link somewhere a bouts here ..

caveman

1:42 am on Nov 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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26 Steps to 15k a Day [webmasterworld.com]
26 Steps to 15k a Day - Update [webmasterworld.com]
Brett's Quick Rank System Update [webmasterworld.com]

affgirl

7:35 am on Nov 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks. That was a very good list of an outline on where to start and a checklist of what to focus on. I would still like to learn more details about tips and techniques that go in depth on each action. I saved it though as a great reminder and checklist and to start building action lists out of each thing.

Good thing that it's already no longer true that the majority of surfers are on dial-up anymore. The majority are on broadband now. But I still hate really heavy sites or all flash sites. I keep it limited to small sections of pages.

One thing maybe someone can elaborate on for me, is on what he says about outbound links.

"Outbound Links:?From every page, link to one or two high ranking sites under that particular keyword. Use your keyword in the link text (this is ultra important for the future)."

I had never heard before that linking to high ranking sites from your pages helps your pages. I always only heard about inbound links. Is this true and valid still? Is there any other source online that validates this as well as something that Google looks for? Thanks.

Also for exchanging links, is it really fine to just make a link dump page with just a bunch of links to other sites and sources? Or should they really be peppered throughout the site on different pages like in short paragraphs or articles that mention the site you are linking to and getting a link back from? I know that it is more valuable as a surfer in that I will follow a link in an article I'm reading far more then ever going to people's link pages and browsing lists of links or anything. But what about Google and other SE's? Do they put more importance on one or the other, or on how many links are on the same page or something? Thanks.

etechsupport

11:58 am on Nov 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I would suggest,learn related topics on this board as well join few SEO fourms.

mongoo

4:18 pm on Nov 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"Outbound Links:?From every page, link to one or two high ranking sites under that particular keyword. Use your keyword in the link text (this is ultra important for the future).

I see two good points out of this topic:

1. It looks natural - All good Web sites have outbound links. If you don't have out bound links, you may not be viewed as a credible site.

2. Using your keyword in the text helps validate your page, and what your page is about. Ideally each page should have its own theme and be consistant on the keywords being used.

The key is to stay on a consistent theme throughout the page. By doing this, you let the SE's and your visitors know what your page is about.

I had never heard before that linking to high ranking sites from your pages helps your pages. I always only heard about inbound links. Is this true and valid still? Is there any other source online that validates this as well as something that Google looks for? Thanks.

If you think about this way, it may help.

Question: Do you have control over who links to you?

Answer: Most of the time, no.

Question: Do you have control over the sites you link to?

Answer: 100% of the time, yes.

It's kinda like this:

If you hang out with a gang, are you going to be perceived as football player? Of-course not! You are going to be perceived as a gangster. If you hang out with football players, you will be perceived as a football player.

If you link out to good credible sites within your industry, do you think the SE's will view you as a spammer, or as a credible site?

I see it as "you are just telling the SE's which group you want to be associated with". Since it is something you have control over.

If I find my source of information i'll let you know.

Also for exchanging links, is it really fine to just make a link dump page with just a bunch of links to other sites and sources? Or should they really be peppered throughout the site on different pages like in short paragraphs or articles that mention the site you are linking to and getting a link back from? I know that it is more valuable as a surfer in that I will follow a link in an article I'm reading far more then ever going to people's link pages and browsing lists of links or anything.

I also like it better when it's peppered throughout the Web site. I personally don't go to different sites looking through "link" pages... who does? :)

If you provide a good experience for your customers, they will respect you for it!

Your link partners will respect you for it too!

But what about Google and other SE's? Do they put more importance on one or the other, or on how many links are on the same page or something?

This is the way I understand it, you guys can correct me if i'm wrong. :)

Someone explain it to me like this:

(PLEASE NOTE THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE)

Let say your "link" page has a page rank(PR) of 10.

Lets also say that a PR of 10 is worth 100 PR juice points. (10 juice points per PR)

Now, you have 500 links on your "link" page.

Divide 100 into 500, which equals 0.2

That means that each link is receiving 0.2 "points" of PR juice.

Now, I don't know the exact number of “PR juice points” every PR is worth, but this is how it was explained to me on "how google distributes PR"

Hopefully this helped!

Mongoo

[edited by: caveman at 5:04 pm (utc) on Nov. 11, 2005]
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