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Strategic design of frames & noframes site

Should I put my non-frames site in the noframes tag?

         

eggshell

3:59 pm on May 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi all,
I have a site which makes extensive use of frames (I do have good reason).
I am also making a no frames version (for very obvious reasons). I plan for my visitors to be able to opt for the whichever version they prefer, either on a visit by visit basis, or by using cookies to record their preference.

My question is whether it would be better, worse or no difference from an SEO perpective to put the non-frames version in the noframes tags of my frames version (invocation of frameset or noframes would be determined within my index.php by detecting the cookie/preference (or not).

Or would it be better to keep then completely separate - in which case what would I put in the noframes tag of the frames version?

Am I right in thinking that search engines would never see the frames version as they don't have cookies? Also, could this be construed as cloaking?

Thanks in advance for you thoughts.

eggshell

9:21 am on May 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hmm ... probably no response because everybody is laughing at the obvious flaw in my logic ...

So, I think what I must do is first test for whether their is a 'positive' cookie - i.e. the visitor has been before and expressed a preference for the frames version.

If yes, I generate the frames version (the visitor must be frames enabled otherwise I would not have previously set a 'positive' cookie for them).

If no, I generate the non-frames version (presumably this will include all search engine crawlers - correct?)

Two question then arise:
1. Presumably it is not then worth putting any code in the noframes tag of the frames version as I will have filtered out all visitors including se's who may have looked at it.
2. Could this in any way be construed as cloaking?

Thanks (am I in the right forum?)