traffic

how to get more traffic

[Chair]

I have a website on going and I am wondering how should l I get traffic to my site. My page rank is 4 but i do not get a lot of visitors to my site. I submitted my website to different web directories and free search engine submission services.
Are these paid search engine submissions really works? I am thinking of the webposition gold software, does anyone uses this?
I hope to hear from you guys! Thanks in advance.

Chair

[mona]

Hi, Chair. It sounds like you've got a good start.

>> Are these paid search engine submissions really works?
Hmmm..not really sure what you mean. Do you mean paying a company to submit your sites to SEs? Directories? Shopping sites? Or do you mean paying the above yourself?

>>I am thinking of the webposition gold software, does anyone uses this?
I do not, sorry.

It appears you've been around WebmasterWorld for awhile, so forgive me if I'm telling you stuff you already know! In a nutshell, the two most important things you can do to increase your traffic is to add new content on a regular basis and get more incoming links. It seems like you understand the importance of the second. Here are some threads to check out if you want, the first is my personal favorite here at WebmasterWorld...

Search Engine Theme Pyramids [searchengineworld.com]


WebmasterWorld Welcome and Guide to the Basics [webmasterworld.com]


26 steps to 15k a Day [searchengineworld.com]

[Chair]

Thanks for the quick reply and information. What i mean is paying a company to submit my site to SEs. If i submit my site to SEs, will it surely get indexed? There are thousand of SE's out there and I cannot make up my mind which SE's to trust. Pay per click ad is okay but it sound expensive to me. Any advice from you is greatly appreciated.
Moreover, when it comes to marketing, is it best to approach a potential client through email or just phone them. Which method works well. I am thinking of going to their offices and If i didn't get the chance to speak with them, maybe i can leave a brochure or a flyer with my business card attached to it. Is this a good idea?
I hope to hear from you. Thanks in advance.

[justdave]

I have used WebPosition before and I thought it was a great tool, although I used it rarely for submissions. There are some people that would argue automated submissions are a thing of the past. Submitting to directories, especially the major directories, is a great way to get some link credibility.

Personally, I would say phone calls and personal appearances would probably be more effective. E-mail tends to be highly filtered due to the spam issue.

[mona]

There are some people that would argue automated submissions are a thing of the past.

Count me in that mix, and I'd venture to say almost all would.

What i mean is paying a company to submit my site to SEs. If i submit my site to SEs, will it surely get indexed? There are thousand of SE's out there and I cannot make up my mind which SE's to trust.

There are only three that matter in the US - Google, MSN, and Yahoo. (Some may argue Ask Jeeves) Those three account for about 90% of all SE traffic. Forget about the others. All three will find you by following links to you site, not need to submit.

Submitting to directories, especially the major directories, is a great way to get some link credibility.

I agree wtih justdave. Spend your time and money submitting to directories to build your link popularity.

[Matt Probert]

I am thinking of the webposition gold software, does anyone uses this?

We did. Past tense. I have nothing good to say about it or any other automated submission software.

As for directories, we are on Dmoz, but that's the only one we have submitted to. Is our site successful? I don't know. It's hard to quantify, the most popular sites seem to be online games and humour sites aimed at children, and we don't run one of those.

Matt

[benevolent001]

i wd suggest to add few good content pages ,i too added few pages to my website now i have got some results from 0 free traffic to 100 uniques a day

[specter]

Hi Chair

I see that there are thousands of SEs all around the world and there are some companies that propose the payd submisssion ,someone guarantees the submission also in 4,000 SEs!

Personally I think that it is a unuseful and dispersive thing;
Many marketing researches have demonstrated that almost the 80% of a web site traffic comes from 2 or three main SEs such as Google,Altavista/Yahoo and MSN for example;the traffic coming from other SEs is minimal and surely don't worth the money you pay.

So I advise you to concentrate your efforts uniquely on the main SE in order to obtain the best results.

I'm actually using WebPosition for my web sites and I confirm that is a powerful,complete promotion tool
and I reccomend you to buy it ; I also tryed other products but this seems to be really the best.

I too advise you against the phone or e-mail promotion;
personal appearance where it is possible ,remains the best way to promote yourself and your activity.

Specter

[edited by: specter at 5:59 pm (utc) on Mar. 4, 2005]

[Chair]

Thanks guys. I really appreciate your advice and suggestion. It's a great help. God bless..

[specter]

Much good luck to you!

[Wlauzon]

I just checked our stats for last month, and 98.7% of all hits from SE's come from the top 3 SE's or derivatives that use the same engine.

We get very little from any directory, including DMOZ (DMOZ was # 303 on the number of hits).

We get a surprising amount from various discussion forums, usually from people posting links for specific products apparently.

[Pedent]

We get very little from any directory, including DMOZ...

The value of getting into DMOZ isn't the traffic that you'll get directly from it, it's that you get a high quality link that will help you in the SEs. Just to be clear...

[specter]

Just to be clear, a link on DMOZ worth a link on ANY other web site with a good Page Rank and a few outbound links.