Site Submission Software

Is it a waste of time?

[JudgeJeffries]

Sorry but I'm almost a newbie on this forum. I just dont understand why I keep reading that site submission software that submits to say 100,000 various other sites, search engines and directories is a waste of time. I'm confused as I keep reading that 'anchor text' is all, or almost all and these programs must get a fair ammount of anchor text banged up in various places. I reallise that PR transfer will be minimal but does anyone have any anecdotal stories about how their visitors increased shortly after using this type of software or alternatively that it made no difference or even caused harm.

[jatar_k]

I have many stories of these types of software causing harm. Which resulted in me getting a lot of jobs.

The only result can be harm or none, there is no benefit what so ever.

[JudgeJeffries]

What sort of harm?
Should I start using it on my competitors ;-)

[jatar_k]

A lot of it happened in the old days, and yes people used to do that but I have not seen it work in a while. These days it is just 0 benefit. You get more out of a few hand submissions to directories or a few link purchases than you will ever get out of the auto sub stuff.

<added>oh wait, people don't sell links, I meant ad space, or was it PR ;)

[JudgeJeffries]

Back to my original question. Why is it a waste of time if the program emulates a hand submission, or dont they?

[jatar_k]

I don't find they do. Take a look through the sites they submit to, would you hand submit to them? Maybe, maybe not.

Are any of them PR0 or under some type of penalty that may, or may not, effect your site?

Are they directories or FFA (Free For All) sites? There sure aren't anywhere close to that many actual SEs that are worth it.

If it submits all in one shot how do you know that you will be listed in the appropriate place to refer the proper targetted traffic to your site?

How do you know you will actually get 100k links out of it? I can't imagine that most of them even get accepted.

How do you know the submission is successful? because the software tells you so? I don't think so.

How do you knwo the code hasn't changed on all of those submission pages or they haven't added a fee since the software was created?

shall I continue?

[Receptional]

The software also has the tendency to register you with engines where you are already listed. This will mean that you may penalixe your own site.

The software also hardly ever gets properlu updated (unless you spend out on a real biggie) but sites do get updated. Imagine the workload checkingf the submission process of 100,000 "engines" - trhe software would need an armyt of programmers. In addition, the wrong data starts getting added to the wrong fields.

Being on the receiving end, we have an affiliate program on a finance site whose "signup" has made it into one of these "100,000" lists. We get automated signups by the bucket load, often from the same individual week on week...

Now he doesn't know that he is breaking all sorts of laws siogning up without a UK consumer credit licence...

But he is!

[JudgeJeffries]

I'm not the slightest bit interested in the clicks and business that might flow from the myriad of crappo search engines, sites and blogs that may link because I dont think it will ever happen but I am intested in the PR and anchor text. Dont these links count for anything on that score?

[adamnichols45]

What is the best way to get into the top ranks in the seach engine then?

[Procyon]

"What is the best way to get into the top ranks in the seach engine then?"

Learn SEO by reading WebmasterWorld. You ask a really loaded question. Brett's 26 Steps is a good place to start, too. :)

[webdev]

What sort of harm?
Should I start using it on my competitors ;-)

Well you should know all about C & D letters by now mate so I wouldn't if I were you.

[Webtoolpros]

Site submission software works, but it is the same as submitting it by hand in certain search engines. I wouldn't recommend buying the software though. I have tried web position and addpromoter. They are great softwares, but are a waste of money in my opinion.

If you really want to get listed in Google or other major search engines, i would suggest either paying someone with a pr higher than pr3 or using blogs to get your site indexed within 48 hours. I have a few pr3 and higher sites and just adding a new link to them can get my new domain into Google within 48 hours. This is good only if you are a business or a prominent site.

When submitting by hand, google may take up to 2 months to index your site.

Either way, submission software is not worth your time