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Search Engine Awards Announced

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Woz

10:09 am on Jan 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

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<quote>
Outstanding Search Service - Google

Best Meta Search Engine - Ixquick & Dogpile

Most Webmaster Friendly Winner - Google

Best Specialty Search - Moreover

Hall Of Fame - Yahoo, Open Directory, FindLaw
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Full story here [e-mediamarketer.com.au]

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10:50 am on Jan 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

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And here would be my picks:
Outstanding Search Service - Altavista
Most Webmaster Friendly - Fast/AllTheWeb
Most Anti Webmaster - Google
Loser of the Year - Infoseek Go.com.
Surpise of the year - Yahoo picking Google
Surprise of the year runner up - Yahoo not buying Google
Best Meta Search Engine - Ixquick
Most improved se of the year - Fast/AllTheWeb
Overblown hype of the year - Looksmart
Utility Tool of the year - Goto keyword suggestion tool
Se "nice work" of the year - Alta's webmaster guide
SE "who are you trying to kid" award - Inktomi's pay-for-play
Disappointmet of the year - Excite
Hall Of Fame - Open Directory
Webmaster got-a-clue award - AllTheWeb
Promotion site of the year - Search Engine Watch
Utility site of the year - SearchTools.com
Best Specialty Search - my hard drives
Forum site of the year - you are here
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Dare I argue with Brett... of course I dare!

Outstanding Search Service: AltaVista? No way... grabbing short term cash with no regard for impact on their core service deserves an award for stupidity. I go for Goog, with FAST coming up fast

Most Anti-Webmaster: AV surely gives Goog a run for their money on this.

Can't really argue with the rest though.

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Napoleon:
I am here to give you moral support, before you get a nervous breakdown. I have never understood what Brett has against Google. Time and time again, it delivers exactly what I was looking for and usually on the basis of just one single keyword. I would fight rather than swich.
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Google is a take it or leave it proposition - I leave it. Why? Low relevancy, high corporate spam, hard to read results, childlike looking pages, unethical abuse of power (caching), and anti webmaster and anti SEO (bans).

(debate on Google has been opened in many threads in ye old Google forum - come on in).

On the other hand, Alta is producing highly relevant, clean looking, webmaster friendly, webmaster respectful results. Certainly they have had their monetary problems this year which I agree decreased the quality in the last few months of 2000. I also agree that their problems very early in the year with "too many urls" gave a few vocal people (myself at the time) the feel alta was 'anti webmaster' - I don't think sos. They were mainly anitspam. Those efforts suceeded in spades).

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I agree with most of Brett's thoughts...

except Alta Vista would get the Most Anti Webmaster

I'd give Google the "K-mart of Search Engines" award (i.e. they'll accept anything)

"Best Research Engine" is Northern Light

And, the "How to Destroy User Loyalty" is what I'd award Yahoo.

Kim Krause

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Don't forget "Best Ag Engine": Howdy Howdy Ag and Farm Search Engine

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>Forum site of the year - you are here

I absolutely agree, and getting better all the time.

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My two cents ...

1. I used to use A/V for research. Now that they've incorporated LookSmart titles and descriptions into their ranking algo, the results are far less relevant. (LS titles and descriptions are obviously written by illiterates.)

2. Say what you will about Google, they really drill down in a site and serve up a lot of information that other engines never find. And their results are fresher than Fast.

3. Best Metasearch engines - Ixquick and Zworks. Dogpile has become too slow and cluttered.

Thanks for listening. All of my opinions subject to change in the next week depending on what's new in the continuing SE soap opera - 'As The Algo Turns.'

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>3. Best Metasearch engines - Ixquick and Zworks. Dogpile has become too slow and cluttered.

Zworks was my favourite, but lateley the scripting has gone a little wrong with the Looksmart results. I have switched over to Meta Tiger [metatiger.com]. Also good results although the ranking is a little different from Zworks.

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>"How to Destroy User Loyalty" is what I'd award Yahoo.

*LINK ROT*

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The year 2000 was the year AV dropped from my number one spot for research. I didn;t make a decision, it just happened.

Google took over for me -- it comes through more often than not, and if I need to dig more, I turn to Northern Light. AV is my third choice, but the first two usually fill the bill.

I find that AV's anti-spam efforts definitely worked against spam (kudos for that) but they also knocked many of the most relevant sites too far down the list. This leaves the "somehwat relevant" sites at the top. It's easier for me to filter out obvious spam when I read down a SERP than it is to filter out "somewhat relevant" pages.

I think AV will get strong relevance back, but right now I find them a frustrating engine for research, and I've drifted away.

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My picks:
Best New Traffic Generator: Google
Fun to Play with: GoTo
They don't respect me in the morning: LookSmart, Inktomi
Forum site: Yes it is here!
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Just a qualifier, this was for 2000. (hence my comment about Alta. They were very good the first 10 months of the year). Raging still rocks...
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I'd say Google was the best Advanced Search, with Alltheweb a close second. Yahoo and AOL have to be the most disrespectful and unfriendly webservices....ever. And GO, well, go's dead.

Btw....does Greg Burman ever show up here?

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I'm an ex-AVer converted to Google. Corporate SPAM, you bet, but I have a fix for that. And if this ever catches on it could turn the whole search engine world on it's ear:

Whenever Google gives me more than 4 or 5 pages, I skip right over the first couple pages....click right away to no. 3 or 4.......very little spam down there....lots more relevance (in fact on lots of searches i think relevance can go up as ranking goes down).

Course, that's just me....maybe I'm out to lunch.

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scott, it is interesting what you say about Google.
I have noticed just opposite, the first few pages are excelent but then after that things seem less relevant. Do you have any example searches?

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My Google default is set to return 100 search results per page, so I get a decent view of this...

On popular, generic terms the results are relatively strong all the way down the page. As the terms gets more complex, the quality results recede towards the top of the page. Less popular combinations return only a few related results at the very top.

There is usually some spam, but it doesn't blend in very well with the best-of-category listings.