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How important is a Static IP for SEO?

Does having dynamic IP numbers really screwup SEO?

         

Lokutus

3:08 am on Sep 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just did an IP check on two of my sites. They both have dynamic IPs and not static ones. When I type in the IP number after http:// I get this message:

"Unassigned Address
You have reached this page because the Internet address you loaded in your browser is unassigned on this web server. Perhaps the web site has not been fully installed on the computer yet. Please check the address to make sure it is correct and try again later."

Is not having a static IP for my sites really screwing things up for SEO?

Dave_A

8:11 am on Sep 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have never tried to put my web spider across an IP address, I'm not sure if it would spider it at all.
At linknz.co.nz we use mostly domain names because if we go to a user home page, the spider has a habit of leaping out and trying to spider the whole host.
Just the other day I tried to spider a home page which was in the user area of ihug.co.nz and a few minutes later we had started to index a few hundred user pages.
Perhaps if we went in at a shallow depth it might work but it can be a little dangerous to wade into anything other than domain name.
So I am not sure about spidering an IP address.

Lokutus

4:40 pm on Sep 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I read a site last night which says that your rankings will not be anywhere as good with a dynamic IP as they would be with a static one. This comes from a high profile SEO consultant.

Dreamquick

4:56 pm on Sep 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The basic problem with using dynamic IPs is that they can change - that's why they are called "dynamic".

The fact that they change isn't in itself the issue - however the main problems you'll face is that search engines aren't geared towards indexing sites whose IP addresses constantly change around, plus you wont get any uptime guarantees on a service issuing dynamic IPs (ie a non-business account).

Although global DNS changes tend to propagate around the world in 24-48 hours Google's internal systems used to take 4-6 weeks to catch up which means that on a very dynamic IP a crawler using cached DNS data will nearly always be several steps behind where your site is currently and so you'll have major problems getting indexed.

Unless you have really specialised needs then it's time to bite the bullet and pay for some cheap hosting on a static IP if you want to get your content indexed reliably.

- tony

py9jmas

5:37 pm on Sep 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just did an IP check on two of my sites. They both have dynamic IPs and not static ones. When I type in the IP number after http:// I get this message:

"Unassigned Address
You have reached this page because the Internet address you loaded in your browser is unassigned on this web server. Perhaps the web site has not been fully installed on the computer yet. Please check the address to make sure it is correct and try again later."

What in that makes you think the IP is dynamic? By the sounds of things your server serves a number of different websites from the one IP address. It uses information your browser sends in the request to know which site you're requesting. When you browse by IP number, the browser doesn't send the information the server needs to answer your request, so it sends a default response.

Nuttakorn

10:13 am on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The static ip is very important if you have multiple website placed in the same host. You could be changed your ip address to be static and changed the class of ip address if you hosted on dedicated server. Link from different class of ip address , you will get more value that getting from same ip address.

Sanenet

10:51 am on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Lokutus,

You don't have a dynamic IP address (if you, did then your domain name wouldn't resolve!).

What I think is happening is that your server company is running multiple sites off one IP address, a very common feature of cheaper hosting. If you just go to the IP, the server doesn't know which website you want, and just displays the "default" site, in your case the message you saw.

And no, AFAIK this will not impact on your SEO, unless another site on that IP gets the IP banned - and even then, I think Google now takes that into account.

Lokutus

3:06 pm on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have two sites on the exact same IP. They crosslink to one another and share some similar content.

One site is old and the other was just launched this past summer.

Do I need to change the IP for one?

JAB Creations

2:11 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Download the Mosaic web browser. It's what IE is based off of. No, it hasn't been worked on since last century! :D

[archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu...]

I downloaded it out of curiousity and went to check my site. When I went to my domain it resolved to my host's website. So I am assuming this would be a good way to see if your host is directly resolving your ip to your site or not.

Good luck! :-)

ogletree

2:15 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ok there is some confusion here. What he means by dynamic is that a whole bunch of people share one constant IP. There is nothing wrong with this. A lot of people rank very well with dynamic ip's. Don't worry about it. It has no affect on ranking at all. G does not look at IP's they look at hostnames. Actualy they just look at what they see on the web. There is no DNS issue with a dynamic ip in this case. Their IP will always be the same. They just share it with a bunch of people. If you just used an IP and people linked to your ip then you would show up for your ip in G. Unless you are doing this then don't worry about it.

Marcia

2:18 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ogletree, I think some people are concerned that the value of links from other sites on the same IP or C-class is less, that they won't be worth as much as unrelated ones.

Lokutus

3:17 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>
ogletree, I think some people are concerned that the value of links from other sites on the same IP or C-class is less, that they won't be worth as much as unrelated ones.

Tru dat!

ogletree

3:45 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That is probably true. If that is a concern then I would get a static IP. Never put your own sites on the same ip. If you just have one site then a dynamic ip is probably not a problem. If you find you have a link from a site on the same ip then I would move it then but not until then. Of course a static ip is not very expensive. I have seen it as low as $1 a month per.

yogenmaniyar

8:06 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)



Hi there!

Can somebody tell me if shared IP hosting can get your site punished?

Thanks!

agerhart

8:07 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, it won't.

ogletree

10:34 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well if you have a shared IP with several of your own domains and interlink them and do lots of spamming then yes it can hurt you. There has also been talk that if somebody else on that shared ip spams you might get banned because that ip or ip range was banned. Probably not from G but maybe from Y or some of the lesser SE's.

agerhart

10:41 pm on Sep 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well if you have a shared IP with several of your own domains and interlink them and do lots of spamming then yes it can hurt you.

This has nothing to do with the shared IP.

If you do bad interlinking and spamming from any IP, you stand a chance of getting hurt.

Simply using a shared IP will not hurt you.