Pop Ups

New IE and Pop Ups

[profitpuppy]

I use HTML/JS pop ups on a number of my sites (for a range of purposes) and I know everyone hates pop ups... but....

I've heard that the new Internet Explorer blocks a larger number of pop ups automatically. Can anyone confirm this? Links to information about it?

If it's going to be increasingly difficult to display pop ups, would I better off using DHTML pops?

Rob.

[followgreg]

Hi profitpuppy,

Yeahhhhh, this is true!
Actually it sucks a little. I even causes some warnings before playing flash movies.
It comes with windows SP2, and i believe that it is not that easy to remove completely for the average user.
Well this is probably not that major issue unless most of your traffic is driven by pop-up ads.

G.

[profitpuppy]

Thanks for the tip?

What's SP2?

Is it going to block ALL popups?

That seems a little off the wall.

Thanks again,

Rob

[followgreg]

Yes you're right profitpuppy
This is a bit too much.

SP2 = Service pack 2

Lot of people leave the automatic update ON, so for the pop ups traffic drivers i guess that they should find their way around....there is always a way :)

[profitpuppy]

There is always a way :)

That's a little cryptic.... anything more precise?

[dataguy]

You better plan on 90% of your visitors blocking popups from here out... the popup blocker is on by default after installing SP2, and I can't imagine anyone going in and turning it off.... If you rely on popups for promotion, you need to start re-thinking your strategy.

FYI the SP2/IE popup blocker is supposed to allow popups that are the result of a click, and disallow popups that are timed or automatic, such as from a page load/unload. I've got SP2 running on 5 of my machines, and each one is running better now than they were before the update....

[jimbeetle]

Here's a link to what MS says on the effects of SP2:

[msdn.microsoft.com...]

[shorebreak]

What forms of pop-up based advertising will be blocked with SP2? As far as I understand there are two main forms of pop-ups - those from spyware apps installed on the users' PC and those that the particular site's operator creates in response to specific user activity.

Are both blocked or just one, and if just one, which?

Thanks,
Shorebreak

[dataguy]

There are many different types of popups. SP2/IE is supposed to block the ones that appear in a browser window, and are not a result of the visitor clicking a link or button.

[Mr_Roberto]

Highly unlikely that this would affect spyware pop-ups - just pop-ups generated from scripts on the page.

[flyerguy]

Good for MS. Popups are garbage. Web pages aren't meant to be flying around the screen like Richard Simmons on a bender.

I, and any other educated person, will never, EVER, click on anything remotely approaching this silly 'free-range' ad format. Web>human interface is still tacky enough (whatever happened to Tron?), there's nothing worse than being assaulted by crappy ads that attempt to 'trick' people into buying or doing something. It's the electron equivalent to a greasy used car salesman.

For all the dim bulbs who are now searching for yet another 'bulletproof' popup script, why not spend your time thinking of a -legitimate- way to make money, rather than leeching off granny's uneducated trigger finger.. flash in the pan marketing techniques that are soon to be extinct aren't going to give you a comfortable retirement fund.

[enigmamonkey]

Lately, I've been noticing that many websites are still circumventing popup blocking protection for IE6 in Windows XP SP2. Since IE allows popups when you click on a link or button, they have made it where a popup (or "popunder") will be displayed anytime you click anywhere on the entire page. This is still within the programmed rules of the SP2 updated version of IE6.

I have a popup blocker by Earthlink that will block all popups unless I click twice. This only causes problems with popups spawned by a Flash animation, so in that case I just turn the blocker off for that specific website. I find the advantages of using that popup blocker much greater than the disadvantages.

I would suggest not using popups at all, and rather use banners, since banners are less annoying to me. :)