Anyone know the latest SE rankings for 2003 or 2004

se rankings

[jezzer300]

Every time I read an article about who you should be posting to and which SE drive most traffic and where they get their listing from it's a different top 10 list or I get to the bottom and it's 2-3 year out of date.

Where can I find out? So far I've determined that I should manually submit to these and the top 5 almost in the right order...

Google
Yahoo - results from google
MSN Search – results from ink, direct hit, looksmart
Lycos/Fast
Altavista – results from looksmart
Wisenut
Directhit
Hotbot – Direct hit, open and ink
Open Directory project
Intomi
Ask Jeeves Email url and description to
AOL Search - results from Via Google
Netscape

[mona]

Hi, jezzer300. Welcome to WebMasterWorld:)

Ya, that list looks pretty out of date. About 80-90% of your search engine traffic will come from only 3 places - Google, Yahoo, and MSN. So you want to concentrate on those.

Google: Get a link to your site from a site that is already indexed in Google. Submitting doesn't really do any good. Google adds new sites by following links.

Yahoo: They do have a free submit, and I've used it. However, I don't know if my site was added through that, or if Yahoo followed a link to my site. You can also pay to have your sites indexed if you're in a hurry. However, it's pretty easy to get in the index free.

MSN: There's been some changes with MSN, not even sure how up to date I am! They are working on their own SE technology at this time, but right now they use a third party - Inktomi - and maybe one or two others - someone else can maybe help you out with that. Noone seems to know when they will launch their own search engine. However MSNBot is out in full force, so you want to be found. In the mean time, again, get links from sites that are in MSN (Inktomi). Or you can pay for inclusion - but I wouldn't seeing as we don't know how long MSN will be using Ink.

So after all that rambling what it comes down to is this. Get incoming links from sites that are in Google, Yahoo, and MSN (Inktomi) there's really no need to submit unless you're in a hurry and then you'll have to pay.

[jezzer300]

Thanks Mona.

Has anyone else got any more to add to this?

[yowza]

Any search engine that will actually send you traffic should have a good enough spider that you don't need to submit at all. I don't submit my websites any more and they still end up in Google, Yahoo, MSN, and AskJeeves. Although many other search engines index my site, I don't really care about any others than the four I listed above.

[rj87uk]

I wouldnt say its a waste of time, someone here at webmaster world once said:

'submit and forget' - good advice.

Personally i would use one of they express submits dreamsubmit or something, just for free :)

then forget!

[chrisnrae]

I also never submit. Get good inbound links and they'll find you. If it matters, MSN, Yahoo and Google drive 95% of my SE based traffic even though the same sites are listed and rank well in many of the others you listed above.