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I have submitted the site but results are not satisfactory

should i go for resubmission?

     
12:37 am on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi all at webmasterworld,
I optimized the site and submitted it you google yahoo and msn and other minor search engines.

After 2 months performance of my site at google is not satisfactory and i want to resubmit it after changing the title and description tags.

For keyword Phrases like "example example" or "example example" site is on first page, but ranking of site is not satisfactory for simple keywords like "example ", "example ","example " etc.

Should i go for resubmission so frequently or i should wait for the increase in ranking of site?

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Navdeep s

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12:42 am on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Higher ranking is generally easier with 3 and 4 word search terms. Often times ranking higher for longer search terms out performs lower ranking for shorter terms.
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You should not have to resubmit for google, and I believe yahoo or msn (but with all the changes going on in the Yahoo camp who knows...)

Their spiders should come around on a regular basis and find any changes you have made.

Other "minor" search engines may be different.

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thanks for replies,
joe king, what are the main points for optimization for single word keywords, and how can i know that my site is gaining because of keyword phrases or single keywords.

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12:32 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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get links from good websites that gets both pr & get you in the indexes faster. one nice side effect of PageRank is that you will get indexed a lot once you hit 5+. write loads of content, 1 page per day. sounds a lot, but that's what you gotta do. we've averaged over a page a day since last november, so it is doable.

forget about hitting single keyword serps. they are hard to rank for and are arguably the least valuable. we've had our site up for around a year and have only very recently started hitting some single word serps. I suspect that there is an element of vanity in getting onto the top serps for a single word. it isn't something we intentionally go for at all.

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Should i go for resubmission so frequently or i should wait for the increase in ranking of site?

Site ranking dependings on a combination of on-page factors (eg, titles, headings, page content, etc), off-page factors (inbound links, anchor text content, link context, etc), and competition (how many other pages target your phrases, and how well optimized are they?).

Inbound links give your site "credibility" with the engines, and they also help the spiders find you. They are particularly important for rankings on competitive searches.

This may be an oversimplification, but generally I'd say that if you don't have enough inbound links for the engines to find you, you don't have enough to rank competitively. In other words, submission to crawler based engines is probably pointless.

On the other hand, submission to directories, like Open Directory and Yahoo, may give you listings (ie, links to your site) that will serve as a seed to crawler based rankings.

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thanks robert,
my site is showing good ranking at Yahoo and MSN and is on first page of search engine listings for the targeted keywords but at google ranking is not good for the same keywords.

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showing good ranking at Yahoo and MSN... but at google ranking is not good for the same keywords.

Navdeep - That often means that you have good on-page optimization, and maybe some good inbounds, but not enough to compete on Google. I'd work on the linking. Forget the submission... that will take care of itself.

There may be lots of other stuff going on with Google too... they're adding layers and layers of hoops to jump through... but the basics of on-page optimizing and good inbound links are where you should be starting.

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I am sure if u get some links with relavant inbound text in link text, u should get better as Robert says.
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thanks robert
i have many links from website because of advertisements from other websites but these all are not two way links. if i ask these advertisers to make it a two way link will it help my website.

Navdeep

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Hi Navdeep

Try something like this. Look at the backlinks for those sites that are ranking well in Google, for the terms you are trying to rank with. Contact the webmasters of those sites for reciprocal links.

It is quite alright to have only outbound links from your site, so you really don't need to ask your advertisers for a reciprocal link. They might not want to anyway... they are already paying for their link.

Get your backlinks in order and Google will follow. One thing you didn't mention is how often googlebot is crawling your site, or how deep. In order for either of those to happen, you really need to give the bots something to chew on, or they may not come back as often, and your ranking may suffer.

If the page is question is not getting crawled daily, refer to paragraph 1. If it isn't getting crawled at all, then go ahead and resubmit, then refer to paragraph 1.

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thanks grandpa for your reply,
please tell me how can i know when crawler crawled the website and how deep as you said.i don't know about this please tell me how can i do this?

Navdeep

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Read your logs and follow the advise of others. Follow my directions and you might find yourself lost :)
1:47 am on May 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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no problem grandpa carry on, i will manage it.

thanks for your suggestions