No more free Search Engines available?

SE, free search engines

[alik]

I am trying to submit my new project to as many free search engines/directories I can, but so far I only found 4 available:

[google.com...]
[add.yahoo.com...]
[submitit.bcentral.com...]
[dmoz.com...]

The rest: altavista, alltheweb, hotbot, etc, either unavailable, either submission is now paid.

Do you know of any other free-submit SE?

[trillianjedi]

They will all get you eventually as long as you have some inbound links - the more the better.

In respect of google, you will need those inbound links to stay in the index once you're in.

TJ

[seoler]

Does that bcentral free one work? I've used it in the past, and don't think I recall any of the submissions listing. Everything may have been turned on it's ear now, in any case, since the paid inclusion/cost per click program.

[kevinpate]

Matt's gigablast anyone?

[philr]

You can also submit to Lycos for free at:

[insite.lycos.com...]

But you must register as a member of LycosInsite.

[alik]

Thanks!

[simonuk]

The whole search engine submission process is pretty much a thing of the past.

If you want fast results then get a link added onto a site that bots visit often.

When I create a new web site I link it on my own homepage which gets indexed daily. Within 48hours the new site is on google. Within a couple of weeks it has spread all over the place.

I have SE submission software but haven't seen any need to use it for the last year.

Google and DMOZ are, at this time, the only two worth getting added to but by placing your link on a well visited site you will speed up the whole process anyway.

Simon.

[alik]

> If you want fast results then get a link added onto a site that bots visit often

Yeah, but the problem is to find such site. I am pretty new on this and I don't have any high ranked site yet.

I have seen people posting their URL's as HTML in forums and guestbooks, to get a higher page rank, I suppose. Is this a common practise? Is it recommended at all?

[simonuk]

forums and newsgroups are also a waste of time as engines are giving them less and less credit. In a number of cases the SE's are actually dropping them.

Step 1
Make sure you have googles toolbar on your computer.

Step 2
If your site is a non-proit site about widgets search for "widgets" and check their cache and page rank. If both are good email them asking for a link swap.

Maybe 1 in 50 will link with you but you only need one to really start to take off.

Simon.

[alik]

Thanks, Simon.

And what about this link's exchange programs that you can see around, for example cyberspacehq? I see that many sites keep a huge linking page in order to swap links afterwards. Maybe it would be a good idea to create something similar.

Albert

[alik]

> Make sure you have googles toolbar on your computer

By the way, why is it so important to have Google's?
Currently I use alexa's.

Thanks!

[simonuk]

And what about this link's exchange programs that you can see around, for example cyberspacehq

I've used the link trader on addweb for almost a year. A few of my sites had over 500 link exchanges and all I got out of that were maybe a dozen sites that SE's knew were linking to me.

I deleted the accounts and started again. This time I'm only going for links I know will work and all the links I do accept will be very relevant instead of broadly relevant.

Nothing works as well as just 1 site which gets updated daily and is loved by SE's

Simon.

[ra66it]

>> Make sure you have googles toolbar on your computer

> By the way, why is it so important to have Google's?

Ya, why?

[pageoneresults]

By the way, why is it so important to have Google's?

Many have found that surfing while having the Google Toolbar installed has an affect on the resource getting into the index.

For example, if you've launched a new site and haven't done any promotion. You start surfing that site while having the Google Toolbar installed. Some feel that there is information being sent back to the Google datacenters and that sites are getting indexed this way.

There are a few topics on this floating about. The original people involved with those topics were wondering how Google picked up pages that were not linked to or hadn't been promoted. The only thing they could deduce was that they had the G Toolbar installed while they were viewing that page.