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What CMS is the better?

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rashid

10:33 pm on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I whant your opinion abaut which of these CMS is the best and more Friendly for the search engines.

In other words, what CMS is more optimized for the best promotional result on the Search Engines?

PHP-Nuke
Post-Nuke
phpWebsite
Xoops

Thansk.
I will if you can estate your opinion and why?

werty

4:05 am on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think it depends on how much content you need to manage.

I remember there being a thread and many people were using movable-type with either "hacks" or their own tweaks. If I remember correctly that was good for smaller sites.

As far as php-nuke or post-nuke, both csn be used effectively as long as you clean up the urls(look for a hack/patch) and get rid of session id,s.

You may also want to check out Xaraya.

martinibuster

4:34 am on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm experimenting with something called pmachine. Just unpacked it. Supposedly generates search engine friendly urls and even has it's own search function.

nakulgoyal

10:26 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am using movable-type with no hacks and it works great for me. It create static html files and they are all indexed. I get a lot of traffic!

As for the others, whatever you use, research well on it and use mod_rewrite!

rashid

7:05 pm on Jan 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks your answers.

But I have some questions:
Way you suggest me use Xaraya?
Is better?

If I undertand good your anwers, all CMS may be goog for the searchengine, the only point in the question is "If the URL generate by the CMS is search Friendly".
Then you suggest my to use the mode rewrite to get good URL.
Is that right?

Other question.
What is movable type?
Thanks a lot.

werty

6:02 am on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Last time I checked Xaraya was not better, but it was supposedly going to have numerous features that would make it better. I would suggest looking into it and seeing how it works for your needs.

You are correct with using mod rewrite to fix the "non search engine friendly URLs" to "friendly"

Moveable type is a blogging/cms software.
movabletype.org

nakulgoyal

12:26 pm on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I strongly recommend movabletype! It's free and very nice! Depends if it suits your requirements though!

lukasz

1:01 pm on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Movable type is free only for non commercial use.
Comercial licence cost 150$.

farmamundial32

6:22 pm on Jan 30, 2004 (gmt 0)



Anyone here who knows [snip]? They claim to be search engine friendly and it looks as if they actually are. Is there anyone who has ever tried to buy this product?

JF

[edited by: pageoneresults at 6:58 pm (utc) on Jan. 30, 2004]
[edit reason] Removed URI Reference - Please refer to TOS [/edit]

Nova Reticulis

2:05 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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First of all, I would highly discourage anyone from using PHP-Nuke for its long and traceable history of security issues.

Second, a CMS that's definitely worth taking look at is TikiWiki. It's totally bad ass, has *way* more features than anyone'd ever need, and uses Smarty as its template backend (also known as THE templating engine for PHP and equals to good performance when set up properly)

And third, probably least profound but nevertheless most important: write your own CMS. Seriously. No CMS other than your own can offer you the degree of control, customization and performance benefit that you seek in production environment, especially when we're talking tens thousands hits a hour.

rogerd

2:15 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've not installed full-blown CMS systems, but I've used MT for small scale CMS. Its strength is also its weakness: it's great that it generates static HTML pages - no funky URLs, no CPU overloads from script processing, etc. And it's quite fast when it regenerates its pages. But if you have thousands of pages, you'll have to regenerate them every time you make a change to header/footer/nav menu, page formatting, etc. This could get tedious.

Drupal, an open-source CMS, has gotten some preliminary good comments here, but I haven't used it.

Nova Reticulis

2:17 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well actually seeing some content-generation system that can selectively rebuild destination pages with some sort of dependency system (a la make) would be nice...

rogerd

3:54 pm on Feb 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One way around the regeneration issue is to use SSI for things like navbars and headers. This will allow changes without regenerating all the pages. The more you can include with SSI, the lower the frequency of full regeneration.

chubba

7:25 pm on Feb 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey all,

Was introduced to 'Article Manager' from interactive tools .com a little while ago and have build a rather large, multi-template site from it in a matter of days. Yes, server side includes rock and means I can add a button to my static navigation and element snippets and simply ftp those up rather than having to regenerate all pages.

The URL's are published as .shtml files to make best use of SSI's and Google has spidered the site twice now, 50 pages on first visit and 350 last month...

Only problem is if your sections go past your article limit for the page then the more button that is produced is not google friendly, it queries cgi file with a load of parameters.

With the exchange rate rocking at the minute (for this side of the channel anyway) if you in the UK the life-time licence cost is minimal.

Hope this adds to the confusion for you 8)

Chubba

utica

3:00 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I've been using Moveable Type and have been happy with it.

Be careful with the comments funtion. My site has been hit with a lot of spam. I finally turned the comments function off.

moltar

4:20 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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WebGUI worked very well for me! All the URLs are dynamic, but look static. You can view it as advantage of disadvantage, but all the URLs start at the root, you cannot create "folders". And their code is messy, but one of my sites that uses it ranks great!

bunltd

5:27 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Another vote for WebGUI - using it on several sites, with more in the works.

Re: directories - your urls don't have directories but you can group your pages in a similar way for navigation purposes using the page tree where you can manipulate the hierarchy, but on the web - you get nice short urls.

LisaB

Jaze

6:49 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm also curious about CMS but after visiting TikiWiki, I find it to be quite slow to load any of the pages - looking at the sites linked from the TikiWiki demo page in particular.

Jaze

6:59 am on Feb 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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rashid - you may appreciate this site
[opensourcecms.com...]

Listing, reviews and demos of CMS including those that you listed.