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Flash and SEO

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layer8

11:41 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Guys/Gals,

If a client wants keep a flash site that they have spent loads of dosh building but they also want to reach high rankings, can I simply keep the flash on a .html?

And then just build a html site and save the index as .htm?

When users goto www.wigets.com they get the flash, if google and other search engines crawl the site they will get the www.widgets.com/index.htm in html.

Would this work? It seems to easy to be a solution!

benihana

11:45 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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a lot of sites use a flash and html version and offer users a choice on the (html) frontpage, which should work ok.

users who do find the site throught the S.E.s will likely be taken to one of the inner html pages, and may not realise that there is a flash version available.

ben

layer8

12:26 pm on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes I know this, the cilent does not want a splash page and wants the flash on the home page.

Im not gonna go into the details as past posts are already taking up lots of server space.

Im just thinking, flash site to normal visitors, html to search engine visitors, java drop down menu on home can have option to go to flash site and everyone wins.

I don't get bared from google for redirecting, the index.htm and index.html are different content so no dup. conent dedected. It just seems to easy with all the posts everyone has done previously, this approach has not been found anywhere, will it work?

kazonik

1:21 pm on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Optimizing the swf content can't hurt either.

Certainly no replacement for html but its a positive thing.

simonuk

12:32 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Your post isn't clear about your intentions (could be me though, its late here).

If you mean just creating 1 page in html and calling it index.htm it will not work.

If you mean creating the entire site in html as well then that will work.

Flash has no content whatsoever for SE's so as far as SE's are concerned your clients site only has one page and that page is blank except for any meta tags you might have.

Content is king so the only way out of this is to make an entire site in html to go side by side with the flash junk.

Simon.

CygnusX1

12:57 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not sure if this works, but here goes.

I know someone that made a flash page, but made the flash only 3/4 of the page and added a html link to skip the flash and go on to the html page like what some websites do.

What he did differently was put the html link for skipping not only at the bottom of the page, but also at the top of the page. He said he did something in the code that the spider would be sure to see the first html skip link first and would get past the flash that way. Can't remember the website address.

Not sure if it works, but it sounds good.

kazonik

2:06 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Flash has no content whatsoever for SE's

according to FAST, they read and index flash content...
Macromedia has made a free module available for this.

mktman

4:49 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have seen the flash question before and was smart enough to write down the answers. They sound good in theory, never tried them myself. First, I read that some SE read flash, but only links and not real text. "Just what I read".

Opt tips for flash:

-Of course optimize your IBLink text if you can
- optimize your page title
- put in single unseen frame around flash and use <noframe> tag with text content
- add text content and use css to position off page (seen this done by a ranking competitor and it works, the jerk) :-P
- use html doorway pages (not old style spammy ones, but lets call them landing pages that are human friendly and generally look like your site, offer a bit of content, kw's, IBL for PR and then get them to the flash)
- of course an html version
- use <noembed> tag, appeartly used if browser (SE) can't read flash then this is like the <noframe> tag for frames <- this answer got the most acclaim in the other thread.

hope this helped
mktman