Doing well with Google but not the others?

How to rank well across all engines

[jsnow]

May be a question that has been answered before, I've tried searching with no sucess.

Our site does very well in Google and even weathered the recent storm very well but we are almost non-existant in any other SE (Unless G feeds it).

I read when I first started on the site that if you optimize for Google then it will be perfectly fine for all the others. That didn't work!

Any advice on optimizing for ALL SE's?

[skipfactor]

>>Our site does very well in Google and even weathered the recent storm very well

If you're e-comm, you're sitting on a pot of gold right now. :) Personally, I wouldn't touch it (for now), and play with a little PFI & PFC on other SEs.

[jsnow]

It isn't ecomm and maybe that's why we didn't have any problems! PFI - Paid for Inclusion?

[dwilson]

If it's non-commercial, get a Zeal listing. Zeal feeds MSN & I've gotten fair results that way.

P.S. I think Zeal still feeds MSN. That may have changed recently.

[yowza]

I don't think anybody would say that if you optimize for Google that your site will be fine for other engines. In many cases it is fine, but not always.

I have a site that ranks #1 for my keyword in Google (I optimized for Google only) and #1 in Inktomi, but is as low as #12 in AltaVista.

You could serve each bot a different version of your site (search for cloaking).

However, I would just try to add some pages to your site that are directed at other search engines and concentrate on getting inbound links to those pages.

You definitely shouldn't mess up your high ranking pages in Google by making any changes now.

[skipfactor]

>>It isn't ecomm

Google's still the majority of traffic. I'd sit on it at least until Yahoo makes the switch.

Or design another site just for MSN/Ink & block Googlebot. Do a 'Paid for Inclusion' for Ink, you get a 48hr or so refresh & you can tweak the page(s), monitor the results, and make appropriate changes.

[trillianjedi]

How old is the site?

TJ

[jsnow]

Thanks for all the advice, the site is 10Months old now and although it isn't ecomm it is still commercial. It is a company website for a particular industry

maybe I'll try doing some pages specifically for MSN and see what happens

[jsnow]

Can anyone point me to an area with some advice on how to optimize for Inktomi, MSN and Alltheweb. Also does anyone know what the top five SE's are in terms of searches done?

[mnonline]

Hello Everyone,

New member here and I come with the same question - any recommended 'educational resources' for getting a high ranking in MSN?

I have a ton of info for Google but nothing for any of the other SEs.

Thanks much and I look forward to learning a great deal at this great site!

Randal

[skipfactor]

Welcome mnonline :)

WebmasterWorld Google Searches:

ranking well on inktomi [google.com]

ranking well on all the web [google.com]

ranking well on altavista [google.com]

[mnonline]

Thanks, Skipfactor!

[jsnow]

I'm going to create a seperate domain for other engines and therefore much of the content will be duplicated. How do I stop problems with being penalized?

[skipfactor]

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[jsnow]

Skipfactor

Thanks for the info!

[Marcia]

You could try doing a little tweaking on the meta tags for Ink. Unless Google is picking up a snippet from the meta description that shouldn't disturb anything.

[jsnow]

Marcia

Do you have any specific adeas on what INK likes in terms of META tags. Keyword ration, number of words etc?

Cheers
John