Is there a Wordtracker typec site for Altavista?

[wrreisen]

Hi,

Is there a Wordtracker type database out there to find out which phrases will work best in Altavista?

Is it worth doing some specific optimising for Altavista as it only gets 1% of SE traffic?

[Goober]

As far as I know, the trial version of Wordtracker uses Alta Vista. The full purchase version uses a larger list of search engines, but the trial is solely AV.

Goober

[Macro]

The full purchase version uses a larger list of search engines

I keep reading the same spiel about that from Wordtracker but the results I get in wordtracker are exactly the same as Overture's FREE Keyword suggestion tool.

[sullen]

Makro - really? I get completely different results in Wordtracker. I wish they were the same - I spend hours collating the data!

[Macro]

sullen, I'll check again but for MONTHS I was getting exactly the same thing - down to all the wild guesses (extrapolation).

[hthota]

I use the overture suggestion tool to find good keywords for my website and use Wordtracker to optimise my keywords for Google. I find that there is a huge discrepancy in the results in both the tools.

For ex: A keyword like 'e learning' throws up a count of 863 in overture but the count in wordtracker throws up a count of only 6. I dont see how this can happen since wordtracker updates databases once in 60 days and overture once a month...

I'm confused about which tool to trust. Please get back to me asap

[Macro]

You get exactly the same results in both. I've just tried "boiler repairs", "IT jobs", "free flight" and "office furniture"

If you are not using the US version of Overture you will get different results to Wordtracker i.e. if you choose your country in Overture before going to the Tools page.

Either way these figures are highly approximated, use extrapolation extensively, and are not to be relied on for anything. Use them as a rough guide, a very rough guide.

[hthota]

Not really. Try 'e learning software' or 'elearning software' on both and check. Boiler repairs also does not throw up aprroximatel the same number of results. I am using the US version of overture.

[Macro]

"e learning software" = exactly 863 in both.
"elearning software" = exactly 1190 in both.

It would be interesting if somebody else could do those same tests and tell us what they are getting.

Similar thread: [webmasterworld.com...]

[hthota]

I get 863 on overture but wordtracker does not show the same results. I just tried a few keywords in and it doensn't seem to be working ok...are we using different versions or something?

[Macro]

I have the paid up subscription to Wordtracker. The trial version may give different results.

[Harley_m]

do you guys find the number thrown up by wordtacker to realistically predit the number of searches?

for me - it would seem it way under estimates it...

Harley

[WebmasterFisherman]

If Wordtracker uses Altavista data feed for trial only then we should perhaps multiply it by at least 30-40 times to extrapolate this for Googlebot fed searches

This believing Nielsen Netratings surely