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Separation of words in domain name or URL name

[tvldeals]

I have created a new site by the name of word1word2word3.com, now here is where I am totally confused. The obvious ways someone could find me listed on web search results, are in these examples;
word1 word2 word3,
word1word2 word3,
word1word2word3,
word1word2word3.com

Strangely enough, when I typed in to do a search, using each of the examples above, (ex: "Google"), I do not find all my pages listed for ANY of them, even though all results listed DID indeed point to my index file? I am wondering perhaps, if separating the words for my URL Domain name, in the title, will pull up better results or would just listing it as word1word2word3.com PERIOD, be best? Since obviously I can only do it one way.....which is better? Keeping in mind that this site has only been up and running for a month now. Yesterday I had changed it to word1 word2 word3-(with of course the rest of my title tag following).

I am really confused , as to the best way to proceed with this, so any help would be most appreciated.

[edited by: heini at 7:23 pm (utc) on Oct. 12, 2003]
[edit reason] plrease don't use domain names and specific keywords / thanks [/edit]

[heini]

Hi tvldeals, welcome to WebmasterWorld

First, when you search for any of the three keyword phrases, Google and ATW will display only 1 or two of your pages in the standard serps. There will however be a notice below one of the listings, saying something like: more results from yoursite.com.

The main point however is what combo of those keywords are you targeting?

Nobody will search for word1word2word3.com.

If the phrase you are targeting is
"word1 word2 word3" then you obviously should put that in your title tag. If it's rather "word1word2 word3", then use that one.

Which of those is better depends on how people search for what you offer, and also on how competitive those are.

[tvldeals]

Thanks for your reply.....ironically I could look at the scenario both ways. I do believe that people could type in the first and last word of my URL domain name, together or individually...but the middle word just adds an extra "umph", however doubt that will get typed in unless someone looking for my website specifically. HOWEVER, that being said, there is a related website on the web that has the same first TWO words run together for their URL domain name...but as I mentioned earlier, that same second word is the word I do NOT think people would type in a search run together like that unless they were looking for this specific URL. The advantage could be is that I see this is a VERY POPULAR website in rankning, and in a similar line of business as ours. So maybe listing my URL domain name as "name1name2(space)name3", separated like that, might be better. Of course then I lose the punch of the first word being a draw in its own right, when it stands alone by itself. Which is the better way to go? Any suggestions?

[claus]

Imho, you gave the answer:

>> there is a related website that has the same first TWO words run together for their URL domain
>> this is a VERY POPULAR website in rankning, and in a similar line of business as ours

Which translates to: If you go for the same word combination as them, you will have more competition and it will be harder to get to the top. Just an opinion ;)

[heini]

>second word is the word I do NOT think people would type in a search run together like that unless they were looking for this specific URL

Then throw it out.

I would start with some serious keyword research, see what phrases people really use. Should it turn out that neither of those phrases are popular with searchers, well you don't have to use your domain name in your title.

[tvldeals]

I always thought you HAD to use your exact URL domain name in your your title tag? Ex: url-(then the description title tag), the same info that appears at the upper left hand corner of ones browser. Don't search engines see that as a negative, if you don't?

[heini]

I would take some searches in a search engine, in a highly competetive area, and look how the title tag (and many other things) are handled there.

[magicsoftware]

I always thought you HAD to use your exact URL domain name in your your title tag

I've noticed sites that do this but I can't understand why? Can someone please explain the benefit of doing this?

[John_Caius]

What's in your title tag helps your ranking for that phrase. If I put "fried green tomatoes" in my title tag, I'll rank better than I did before when people search for "fried green tomatoes".

There are no rules about what you can or can't put in any part of your website, aside from the usual copyright considerations, libel laws and search-engine-driven penalisation for blatant spamming.

Build a good and honest site, looking at the layout of some good sites for ideas of what to put where. WW is a good place to start.