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rcjordan

8:35 pm on Dec 6, 2000 (gmt 0)

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Oh yeah, this is cutting edge stuff -for 1997.

It seems we've been working too hard, just get those meta tags right. from TheStandard [thestandard.com]

Hey, redzone, want to tell some of those F500 clients that all you're doing is tweaking the metas?

tedster

2:30 am on Dec 7, 2000 (gmt 0)

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These are the folks selling the $500 research reports? Makes you wonder...

drbill

4:14 am on Dec 7, 2000 (gmt 0)

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I was always told....

"If you build it they will come..." YEA RIGHT

littleman

4:38 am on Dec 7, 2000 (gmt 0)



"Don't pay a service for placement and obsess over your metacodes."
He might as well say,
"Use lots of javascript and always put a meta refresh on your index page."

redzone

3:05 pm on Dec 7, 2000 (gmt 0)

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RCJordan,

It's all in the meta-description "code" as Guterman put it.. :) I have a secret handshake code, that I place there, that causes the SE, to not bother with the rest of my hard work, and immediately place my client's URL in the top 10....

When my book comes out in 2002, everyone will have access to the secret meta-description code that revolutionized the marketing world two years previous...

On a less serious note:
I emailed Guterman personally, and thanked him for insuring that my SEO longivity value, is good for another two years, thanks to his wonderful and informative article...

yanton

8:25 pm on Dec 9, 2000 (gmt 0)



Hey Redzone, how about a clue as to that secret handshake code?

Would it relate to the Dublin Core (D.C) meta tags such as:

<meta NAME="DC.Title" CONTENT="...">
<meta NAME="DC.Creator" CONTENT="...">
<meta NAME="DC.Subject" CONTENT="...">
<meta NAME="DC.Description" CONTENT="...">
<meta NAME="DC.Publisher" CONTENT="...">
<meta NAME="DC.Contributors" CONTENT="...">
<meta NAME="DC.Language" SCHEME="..." CONTENT="...">

or maybe

<meta NAME="abstract" CONTENT="...">
<meta NAME="rating" CONTENT="General">
<meta NAME="revisit-after" CONTENT="2 days">

... the revisit tag by keeping the days low to encourage respidering.

Go on, put me out of my misery.

redzone

11:43 pm on Dec 9, 2000 (gmt 0)

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OK, but don't tell anyone...

<meta name="secrethandshake" content="Top10Ranking Please">

Guaranteed to work as good as the "back door" technique into Yahoo... :)

Garyh

10:43 pm on Dec 10, 2000 (gmt 0)



Redzone, as a newbe, could you point me to the Yahoo "back door" information you mentioned?

Thanks

rcjordan

11:21 pm on Dec 10, 2000 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WmW, Garyh. As for the backdoor, redzone was just making fun of this article being so ...misleading. Normally, TheStandard is a fine source of information, but -as this one shows- sometimes outdated SEO information slips through.

oilman

11:44 pm on Dec 10, 2000 (gmt 0)

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Hi Gary - welcome.

the old 'Yahoo backdoor' is probably one of the longest standing rumors about SEO on the net. For awhile a lot of SEOs were claiming to have a backdoor to get your site on into the index but no one ever came forward and said what this backdoor was. There is no back door to Yahoo - it takes good old fashioned hard work or, if you have the dough, $199 will help you step up the schedule.

I guess the only backdoor could be if you have a friend or relative that works at Yahoo.

Hope that helps ;)

Garyh

1:51 am on Dec 11, 2000 (gmt 0)



OC and Oilman

I thought so, but there are some really "fart smellers" <G> out there and I know for sure I don't have all the answers - I wish!

As I understand it, you pick two categories, choose key words carefully and wait 8 weeks (or pay 200 bucks). Now, if your name is Xerox, you will be at the end of the list for that category. What choices do you have to get around this obvious problem?

Laisha

7:56 am on Dec 11, 2000 (gmt 0)

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>I guess the only backdoor could be if you have a friend or relative that works at Yahoo.

I've always wondered: Could they be talking about the password Yang gave out in 1996 or '97? Because that was indeed a fact. He put it on the HWG list (and alluded to the fact that he'd given it out to other groups), probably some sort of strange way to beta test what later became their Biz Experss.

Marcia

10:41 am on Dec 11, 2000 (gmt 0)

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>>What choices do you have to get around this obvious problem?

Garyh, it's not even waiting 8 weeks any more, and their criteria is a bit more involved - ALL commercial sites have to pay the $199 now - just for a look-see, no guarantee. And most startup individual entrepreneurs aren't comfortable risking that amount.

I've heard some people refer to the back door for being found at Yahoo as the secondary listings - used to be Inktomi, now Google provides the "web pages" listings. Web sites results are the Yahoo directory, web pages results are from Google, so you might want to go through all the posts from the Google Forum - as good a place as any to do research. Also, there have been a few excellent threads comparing Google with Alta Vista, so try the AV forum also.

If you're a newbie, go here:
[searchengineworld.com...]
Start with the step by step tutorial.

With just starting out, narrowing your focus helps to keep from getting too befuddled, and AV and Google are a good starting point.

redzone

2:05 pm on Dec 11, 2000 (gmt 0)

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GaryH:
Welcome to WMW, I promise to use <kidding> tags in my dry attempts at humor in the future...

I back Laisha up on the backdoor.. At one point in 96-97 there was a technique to get a site reviewed versus Yahoo's old way of revieweing sites.

They used to just review all week, then throw out what was still in the que to review at the end of the week.. It was a pathetic system...

All the technique did, was guarantee you'd get reviewed. And it was short lived...

But that was long before Yahoo Xpress ... :)

grnidone

10:09 pm on Dec 11, 2000 (gmt 0)



GaryH:

Welcome to the forums!

I can completely understand your asking for the "backdoor" into Yahoo. It is the most used search directory and everyone is desperate and frustrated trying to get in.

Getting in, is possible. Not easy, but possible.

I believe getting anything changed at Yahoo without a court order is next to impossible. There is no such thing as a biz express for changes, and I don't think Yahoo even looks at the emails to go into the change requests pile. They may be so busy they don't have time.

Good luck! If you have any questions, that is what we are here for: we help each other out!

-G