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Mtlinfo
Note: specific to GRkda
[edited by: Marcia at 1:36 am (utc) on Jan. 4, 2003]
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I'd be interested to hear too if anyone uses it regularly
Anyone...?
Why do you want to know...?
Why do you want to know...?
The question did cross my mind too. ;)
But as I have the sofware, and have not used it recently, I am interested in the answer, whatever the reason for the question.
Mind you a moderator may just pull the thread before anyone answers!
2) There are dozens of freeware, shareware, and web based density analyzers that didn't exist when that software was released.
Simply because i would like to know if this tool is still useful today and used a lot to analyse the SEs Top 10 by reverse engenineering.
Yes i know about Google and it's link pop priority but there is still AV, Inktomi and FAST out there so if you can analyse the Top 1-15, 30-45 then 60-75 with GRkda then i guess putting those results in a spredsheet should tell you a nice story...right?
I left SEO in summer 2000 where this software was THE TOOL for the gods back then to crack SEs telling you right away if your page would be listed 10th, 50th or at the 120th position before it was submitted.
I would need some help on how to use it if you still use it of course.
Mtlinfo
Yeah, had it myself but not been used for well over a year maybe two. I would concentrate on other areas than KWD, it has become almost useless, old style RE is no more. imho
Forget Google and his link pop now since that's all that matter for this one.
What other SEs are condidering if not KW Density? I mean they have to keep score of the numbers of keywords in the Title, Metas and Body to give a ranking right?
Rick
In a word, no.
>>I would need some help on how to use it
Unfortunately, I'm afraid it looks like there's not much help there.
>>I left SEO in summer 2000
With being out of the SEO loop for well over two years, it seems that rather than software that appears to have outlived any popularity and functionality relative to the current search engine landscape, it's much more likely that you need some help with getting up to speed with current search engine optimization principles and practices.
We'd like to welcome you to WebmasterWorld, and suggest that you pull up a chair and do some catching up. You've got a lot of reading ahead of you for a while. There's a bit of a roadmap to help get you started; it would be a good place to get your new start:
WebmasterWorld Welcome and Guide to the Basics [webmasterworld.com]
What you are telling me is that tools like Web Position Gold, GRKda and Keyword density is just a thing of the past.
Ok i'm willing to learn what's new in SEO and what changed in the last 2 years but do i REALLY have to throw away ALL my 2000-1 SEO books, cds, and software here? Did the field changed THAT MUCH!
I mean i can understand that Google now uses link pop (or link rep) but if you take away those links to these Top sites what's left is good old "On-The-Page-Criteria" like KW Density, good Titles, Meta and have those words in the Body part inside tags like href, alt and comments...right?
If not then WHAT DOES the SEs are looking for in a page if not the KW Density and Prominence! The colors of the background i'm using or what...? ;-) Come on be serious for a sec will you...
Hi Marcia,
I read your help section briefly and the only part interesting for me was the tutorials by Brett since section like Control Panel, Glossary, Etiquette, TOS, CSS course, E-commerce tips and Apache Redirect are no use for me.
I know that a major change that happened after 2000 is the importance of Link Pop (Link Rep to be precise) and the Google PR level that they can bring you.
This part is easy for me, having tools like Optilink and willing to ask high PR site to link to my sites is pretty simple.
But you see, right now i'm using PFI for AV, FAST and Inktomi to speed up the listing process for my clients and Brett suggestions to submit, kick back and wait 6 months weeeeeellll may be good for Google and for long term strategies but go tell that to my clients hehe...
"ok thanks sir, i'll get back to you in hummmm...6 months...ok...see ya"!
The other post by Brett about Designing a High Search Engine Ranking Page is good but using your logs to figure out what keyword your visitors are using to improve your pages after is not something new for me but simple SEO logic.
I know the SEO world changes a lot and fast but please don't tell me to scrap everything i've learned...come on, it changed but not that much...or did it! :-S
Rick
I have GRkda and WebPosition Gold and use them from time to time but the difference is that they can no longer be relied on as the be all and end all (not sure if they ever could, but less so now than before anyway).
The emphasis nowdays is on creating great sites that produce quality traffic and encourage other site owners to link to them. Of course, this takes quality content and you have to remember the "search engine friendly design" elements in order to ensure that the engines can access your great content.
Yes, title tags are still very important. No, meta tags are not but you can still use them. Just don't expect them to have much effect. Alt tags should be utilised but with the emphasis on usability/accessibility rather than SEO as they aren't considered hugely important by the engines.
So don't forget what you've learned, just assign slightly less importance to it and start adding a lot more usability and marketing into the mix.
If you're looking for fast results, again you need to think marketing - actually advertising. In this case PPC and, for larger e-commerce sites, perhapse trusted feed. Organic SEO does not produce immediate results which is one reason why PPC is so popular for new sites, new optimisation strategies or once off campaigns.
