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I'm #38 on MSN when I do a search on my domain name....
Is this good 3 days after submission?
I used the Direct Submit service by PositionTech for MSN on Thursday 10*18*02...
And are you looking primarily to optimize for one of them or both right now? The optimization is different for the two, although sites can do well with both.
No 38 'aint good. How do you fare on Google, and what PR do you have?
Nick
I'm new to this as you can tell from my post all over this board but this seems to be the resource I've found by far to get my questions answered....
[Edited]Your navigation under resources does not work in Opera - (oops found the problem, I had the pop-ups set to "No").
[edited by: The_Contractor at 10:42 pm (utc) on Oct. 20, 2002]
It is definitely the best resource I have ever found!
> On Google, I submitted it about 2 weeks ago but only with the FREE sumit options.... I understand it will take months on Google if ever.....
Submitting to google is, IMHO, a total waste of time. If you have links pointing at you Google will find you, whether you submit or not. If you do not have links pointing at you Google will ignore you whether you submit or not.
One place for getting a free link for a commercial site is DMOZ. It took me about six weeks to get accepted, but this is one area where your mileage will differ markedly and unpredicatably.
Non-commercial sites can get free listings on Yahoo! and Zeal, these free options are not available for commercial sites. There is an ongoing debate about how valuable or otherwise a $299 listing on Yahoo! is.
Another source of links is local or industry-specific directories. I had a quick look at your site earlier today and you seem to be affiliated with a larger group, a link from them would be a quick way to get started.
Finally, in the case of Google, you must understand the time frame. The coming October update will reflect links and text as of early this month, anything you do today will not be fully effective until the November update. Googling is not for those seeking instant gratification!
But Google does reward those who study it and work hard. My daily unique vistors have increased eightfold since I started learning about optimization, mainly by reading what was posted here and thinking about it.
And how do you determine what's a good or bad site to have a link from?
That is a good number for a start, but as I said earlier it will be about six weeks before you see their effect :(
> What's the best way to get links?
Check of the Reciprocal Linkage Forum.
> And how do you determine what's a good or bad site to have a link from?
The Google Toolbar is almost essential for chosing the sites you wish to exchange links with.
I just optimized a site that was no where to be found in Google and today we have 3 #1 listings.
Probably just the timing...........
