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Can't get any success with traffic increase from optimization

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erikv

1:29 pm on Jul 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

I've been lurking for e few weeks now, and I find these forums very interesting! It is a relief not to find the "if you take this red pill, you'll increase your traffic a zillion times in two seconds" advice.

As a newbie, I also have a question. I have been doing most of the stuff that is advised on these pages, among others the 26 steps to increase traffic from search engines which are posted somewhere (but acn't remember) where exactly in these forums. I've started doing that some 4 weeks ago. I run a web site (2 actually, but their topics are rather far apart) that is a background-info webzine on IT (only storage, publishing and the Mac). I have a subscription to WordTracker and try to use very on-topic keywords, descriptions etc.

All I get is a measerly 4000 to 8000 visitors A MONTH--and this has been going on for some months now, even before I tried to optimise the site. I'm not selling but I would like to be able to offer ads, which is impossible with these traffic figures.

I won't be including the URL now, as I read the forum conditions, but if you can't give an opinion based on what I just told you, and you want to take a look yourself, I will be very happy to comply. I'm not a programmer and probably not much of a web designer either, but I think my content is good enough. I also should mention Google, MSN, Metacrawler and Altavista are on my search engine list when I analyze the logs with Funnel Web Enterprise. But when I enter one of the search terms there, I never make it to the first 10 pages. I only make it to those first ten withe the search term 'articles information technology management' which very little people seem to search for (but had a great KEI-analysis on WordTracker).

And now I'm going to shut up, because most of you probably have fallen asleep by now.

Any help would be much appreciated because I really don't know anymore what to do.
Thanks,
Erik

NFFC

1:36 pm on Jul 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>some 4 weeks ago

You need three months minimum to really show any gains. If you think you have the plan right wait at least another month before judging performance and then push on from there for the third month.

diddlydazz

1:53 pm on Jul 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Erikv,

Welcome to webmasterworld :)

As NFFC says it take a little longer.

One of the most important things would be to try and get listed in the main directories.

for instance DMOZ (dmoz.org) and the Yahoo directory.

Then concentrate on inbound links.

then have a little patience ;)

Dazz

erikv

7:40 am on Jul 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

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OK, thanks for the advice! I knew I was too impatient :)

Erik

Jane_Doe

5:38 pm on Jul 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've personally never found the KEI method useful. I don't think it is important how many sites in total are competing for a keyword. You are really only competing with the top 30 or so sites, because after that you won't see much traffic anyway. IMHO, generally what counts is the PR of the top 30 sites, the number of links to those sites and whether or not they look like they've been optimized by professional SEO types.

My highest ranked and highest traffic page on one of my sites actually hasd the worst KEI ratio of all the keywords on my sites.

fathom

5:49 pm on Jul 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

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All I get is a measerly 4000 to 8000 visitors A MONTH

This is actually quite good.

What you need to do now is identify what pages and listings are producing this and then identify potential pages that could do the same.

If for instance you have a ten page site and all ten pages are optimized for the same keyword or phrase, it's a bit redundant.

If you diversify your strategy you can easily get a doubling effect.

Chance are only a few pages are actually producing.

erikv

1:44 pm on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Fathom,

My site is diverse enough, IMMHO. It covers storage from desktop stuff to enterprise-level, and publishing stuff from soft to hard, Adobe to Macromedia, so to speak. It's all articles, so much content.

I'm glad you say 7000 a month is not bad, but it seems to be some sort of psychological barrier I can't get through... Frustrating, because I would like to sell advertising space but the traffic is not high enough for most companies from what I've heard.

Anyway, you people are far ahead of what I have been doing all that time. I hadn't even heard of an SEO before I joined these forums...

skibum

4:34 pm on Jul 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If it's a content site, consider going over to Zeal and submitting pages there. Improve visibility in MSN.

erikv

4:06 pm on Jul 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the tip, skibum. I will concentrate on those more.

Erik