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newbies

8:58 am on Apr 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Usually I work directly in html. Now I am going to build a content site and considering of using some software to build the site. I have used FP for a while and won't consider it anymore because it need server extensions. How about others? specifically I need this feature: build automatically navigation menu (at least two levels) like this

<code>
Home
Section 1
-subsection1
-subsection2
Section 2
-subsection1
-subsection2
</code>
Thank you for any suggestions.

PCInk

9:32 am on Apr 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You could try looking into SSI. (Server Side Includes)

These take a second (or third...) document and merge them together into one file before it is sent to the user.

So on your server you could have 4 separate files:

1) header.html
2) footer.html
3) navigation.html
4) index.shtml (shtml indicates it includes SSI)

From the index file you can get the server to put header at the top, the navigation down the side and the footer at the bottom. Now when you need to change the navigation, the header or the footer - you only have one file to change (as content.shtml and contactus.shtml will include the same header, footer and navigation files).

bill

9:56 am on Apr 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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FrontPage 2003 no longer requires server extensions. Also, I've been using FP since it was first rebranded by Microsoft, and I've only used the server extensions on one of the many webs I have created with the software. So your contention that server extensions are necessary with FP is not correct.

newbies

3:03 pm on Apr 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thank you guys for replies.

Regarding SSI, can you pass variable to SSI? For example, I want to highlight the current menu and pass a variable telling the server if the sidebar is called by a certain page, the menu for that page will use a different color. Is that possible?

Regarding FP, I have used FP2000, that's good they got rid of the dependence on extensions, so I should give it a try.

Thanks again.

europeforvisitors

6:47 pm on Apr 15, 2004 (gmt 0)



Regarding FP, I have used FP2000, that's good they got rid of the dependence on extensions, so I should give it a try.

To reiterate what Bill said, FrontPage has never required the server extensions except for special features that many publishers don't use. I've been creating and maintaining sites with FrontPage since 1996, and I never had a Web hosting service that offered the FP server extensions until 2001.

Just to clarify things, FrontPage 2003 doesn't rely on the server extensions for basic Web publishing, but it does support the server extensions from earlier versions of FrontPage. For example, I've been using FrontPage's shared borders, included files, and the occasional form since FP2000, and my current version of FrontPage (2003) works with the FP2000 server extensions at my hosting service.

Finally, if you want to use *all* of the advanced bells and whistles in FP2003, you do need a hosting service that offers Windows Sharepoint Services. But that's only of academic interest unless you've purchased FP2003 for those specific features.

newbies

7:09 pm on Apr 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi europeforvisitors,

do you mean you can still use shared border w/o server extension?

newbies

europeforvisitors

10:58 pm on Apr 15, 2004 (gmt 0)



You need either the FrontPage server extensions or Windows Sharepoint Services to use the shared borders, unless I'm mistaken. (I.e., the server extensions with FP2002 and earlier, and either the server extensions or Windows Sharepoint Services with FP2003.)

bill

7:57 am on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Shared borders do not require server extensions. However, I would strongly suggest you look into using FP's Include Page rather than Shared Borders. It has all the power of an SSI as long as the include falls between the <body> tags. You can't use an Include Page in the <head> of your page.

Make your navigation on one page, include it onto every page on your site, then when you want to update the navigation just update that one page. FP will propagate those changes throughout every page on your web. It's pretty powerful.

HelenDev

8:28 am on Apr 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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can you pass variable to SSI?

Yes, you can pass variables within includes just the same as if the code was in the page itself.