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Simple editor for friends...

what to recomend to them in lieu of FrontPage?

         

Robert Charlton

8:14 am on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From time to time, friends ask me what the best program is for building a simple website. I know they really don't want to learn html, and, with some of them, I also know that chances are that I'm going to end up doing a favor and helping a bit.

Not wanting to get into another discussion about the pros and cons of FrontPage, let's say it's for this latter reason that I try to discourage them from using FrontPage. As I remember, you really can't go into a FrontPage site without using FrontPage.

So what I'm looking for is something inexpensive, probably sort of WYSIWYG, maybe template-based, not FrontPage, that will be easy enough for them to learn that I'll mostly be out of the loop, but which writes more or less standard enough code on a PC that when I do get involved I'm not pulling my hair out.

Is there such an animal?

fathom

8:37 am on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Free downloads/shareware is a good place to start. Coffeecup is a good example to see if: you are html "inclined" without any expense.

brotherhood of LAN

5:08 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd vote for notetab, though ill probably keep voting notetab 99% of the time :)

Since you already know HTML, and dont want to have to educate them how to, I'd fill notetab with code templates. If they can make <p> tags and other simple tags they can integrate that into the code templates that you made for them.

I suppose if you wanted to take that idea a bit further.....when you create a page you could use a scripting language to break up your webpages and use them as the templates. You would have to update their list of templates for every time you made a new batch of pages though ;) But if you kept making the code, these code templates can be the nest for their work, without them messing up or going out of the loop hopefully :)

Robert Charlton

5:52 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>I'd vote for notetab, though ill probably keep voting notetab 99% of the time<<

Yes... NoteTab's what I use most of the time too. It's great, but it's not a WYSIWYG editor... it's the furthest thing from it.

I've considered building templates for some friends, or giving them one of mine... but, with the inevitable html lessons, for many of them that's more than what I'd like to get into.

I'm really wondering if there is an alternative to FrontPage for this kind of stuff.

Marcia

5:55 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It doesn't get easier than Netscape Composer. It isn't perfect code, but I've seen worse.

andreasfriedrich

6:11 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>I'm really wondering if there is an alternative
>>to FrontPage for this kind of stuff.

How about Frontpage Express ;)?

quiet_man

6:18 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>simple website

Depending on what they want to do (design? or publish content?) how about Blogger.com? Just select a template and off they go.

sun818

6:37 pm on Feb 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would look here for a list of WYSIWYG Editors [directory.google.com]. One that comes to mind for newbies is WebExpress by MVD. Namo is another good one for site template features, but is pricey and is likely more than your friend needs.

Robert Charlton

9:19 am on Feb 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was just at a demonstration this evening of Macromedia Contribute, given by Tom Negrino, who wrote a book on using the program. If I were building the sites in the first place and using Dreamweaver to build them (I'm not doing either), Contribute would be a great way to then turn the site over to the untutored.

It's relatively cheap ($99) and looks fairly easy to use as long as you're doing simple stuff with it. I think unless I were setting up sites with it fairly often, though, I'd have to keep a copy of the book at my side.

Back to WYSIWYG, Namo is a possibility I've considered. I (blush) actually have a demo version of the program I've never installed. Their documentation talked about how the program stripped closing paragraph tags out of code to reduce excess html, and that turned me off.

John Dvorak's testimonial on the WebExpress MVD site is certainly impressive. I'm always bothered by wizards, but maybe it's just right for someone who needs hand holding. What kind of code does it write?

caine

11:46 am on Mar 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Robert,

another cheap alternative is Homesite, though this would require some learning.

Robert Charlton

6:14 am on Mar 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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caine - I think of Homesite as being the most powerful and fully featured of the code-level editors, but definitely not a program that's simple. I used to love it... Then it went through some really unfortunate versions, with all sorts of resource issues, and I haven't gotten a new version in quite a while. I probably will if I ever get a new machine with XP. I don't think I'd suggest it to a beginner as an easy way to build a site. But if Chami ever really got its act together and built some local documentation into HTML-Kit, I might not even consider going back to HomeSite.