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specter

9:15 pm on Sep 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I've a web site with a very slow loading time.
Someone told me that I could improve the situation by deleting the white spaces in the code lines of the pages with a wysiwyg editor.
Is it correct?
If yes,as I'm not comfortable with wysiwyg editors,are they easy or difficult to use for a "Frontpager"?
And,where I can find them?

Thanks for a kind reply

Sincerely

Specter

benihana

10:02 am on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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it will help - but only a very tiny amount, and it will make your code harder to read.

Each whitespace you remove will only shave off 1 byte of file size, so unless there loads of them (and i mean loads), its not really worth the effort.

much better to focus on things that make a real difference, like optimising images etc

By 'frontpager' i assume you use frontpage? which itself is a wysiwyg editor.

Ben

specter

10:35 am on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank for your reply Ben.
Really the amount of white spaces in the code of my pages is fairly small,so it doesn't worth the effort...
I will focus on the image optimizing.

You were very helpful.

Thanks again

Specter

DerekH

7:16 pm on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Two things make a website slow to load in a visitor's browser.

One is massive amounts of bytes on a page, and programs like Photoshop Elements will reduce image sizes by 70% with no discerible loss of quality (you can see a before and after side by side and tweak the compression to suit.... images with lots of fine sharp lines won't compress as much as more photo-like images).

The other is the speed of the pipe at your ISP - some ISPs have bottlenecks - poor quality connections onto the Internet backbone, and too many sites being served off each server.

See what rate you are getting information served - that might be a bigger problem than serving too much information via uncompressed images.
DerekH

Webwork

8:14 pm on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is it load or rendering time?

If everything is contained within 1 large table that might pose a rendering delay.

specter

6:55 am on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm talking about loadoing time.
Really,the culprit is a big image file (600kb) that represents the page itself in jpg format and used as background.
I made this because the web page as obtained from Photoshop is an unusable sliced image.
So to put the text into the page I have to delete the slice where I want to write,using this big file as background;this make me two advantages:the first,I'm free to delete any slice in the page putting text wherever I want;the second,when I save the file I keep the original look of the page;
From other hand I also tried to delete the slice and replace it with the same slice as background,but when I save the file, it is not aligned with the rest of the page...
What have I to do?
What is the correct procedure?
What is your suggestion to put text in the page without loss in look?
Thanks for your reply

Sincerely

Specter

grey259

2:17 pm on Oct 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Try working from the other direction. Instead of using an image and then cutting out places where you want to put in text, try designing your site around the text without images first. Play with the layout and get all of your text where you want it to be. Then go back and cut out the pieces of the image that you want and place it into your page.

You can replace large sections of the image that are only one color with a colored table. If there are repeated elements in the image, you can cut one of the repeated elements out as a separate image and use it multiple times. This way the viewer only has to download it once.

webmstr

2:46 am on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wonder about this too. I checked my site through site report card and it says my load time on one of my sites is too slow. 70 seconds. It has 219kb and all of the images are optimized. How do some people get sites to load so fast? And flash sites seem to load faster too.

Also, where can you learn about images and slices etc online? I have Flash MX, and Photoshop, Elements, Dreamweaver MX, and get confused by their examples. I have seen some sites that are so crisp, where the top banner will blend in with the text on the page and also another image near the text etc...how do they do that? lol

TIA