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i'm just starting with this thing, and i'm setting up some links pages to get some popularity on google, for a web i have that sells widgets.
Newbie as i am, i did the usual, posts on forums that alow me to put links, ghost blogs, small webs on free hosters, the usual....
Now, i've been running around here on the forums and got posts telling about auto generators for 1 helluva pages in 7.28 seconds or so.... finding the software to generate a pile of stuff is no problem, but my question is, HOW AND WHERE do you get content to build "da gazillion pages"?
it's not writing it by myself, i'm sure.... ;)
I'm sure many users of high powered page generation software just spider sites to download content, which they use without permission from the copyright owner. (Needless to say, we don't endorse this practice.) There are also tools that will generate keyword laden gibberish, but one would have to consider that a very short-term strategy. Even if the SEs don't detect this automatically, your site will get reported as soon as it appears in the SERPs.
Assuming you are looking for a longer term, legitimate solution, there are a few possible sources. Government content is, by and large, free of copyright restrictions - that can be one source of legal, free content. Older materials that have entered the public domain are also possible sources (but be sure what you use isn't a derivative work covered by its own copyright).
However, this means that i still have to get out and harvest the content by hand (unless it it with spiders). No problem, it's a lengthy task but it can be done.
But, i got the impression that people were talking about content already available (to them at least) from wich to generate, like getting stuff from databases or something... this raises me two questions.
1) where is this stuff? (yeah, i'm lazy... ;)
or is it personal harvest that veterans have built up over time?
2) If i can get my hands on a large database of text, let's say ,"about nothing", what can i do with it? For example, if i want to target possible buyers of widgets, making a large web about nothing would give me useless traffic, and extra bills to pay, the way i see it... or not?
If I could download ContentMakerMaster, plug in my keyword, press start, and then have 2000 pages of well written content on that keyword then everyone would be doing it... I wish I could make money out of thin air but apparently nobody has written that program either.
There is no easy way to make one gazillion page... you can of course just rip off other sites (BAD BAD IDEA... people fight very hard for their content) but you'd just end up in jail by Christmas.
Sorry if I sound a bit rude... but for someone who has researched and written about 100 articles and is about to start on hundreds more... the idea of you stepping in and just wanting a push-button content maker is a tad annoying.
Everyone getting into the web business these days is looking for the easy way, the shortcuts, the "How To Succeed by Doing a Half-A**ed Job."
This is especially true for content writing and link exchanges.
Content Writing = Research, interview, write and properly source your content. Then edit it, have someone else edit it, and rewrite it again. No rehash and rewrite jobs. The internet is sick of that crud.
Link Exchanges = Do them by hand, relevent sites only, one at a time.
deimosaffair, no personal offense intended, but if you going to do this, do it right. Read Brett's now famous 26 Steps to 15k (page views) per day located at: [searchengineworld.com...]
i still have to get out and harvest the content by hand
My heart bleeds at all this work you've gotta do ;) And they said that the internet was an easy place to make money!
What's wrong with writing some decent content yourself?
However, it seems that i explained myself badly. It's not about ripping content, it's a technical aspect of the thing i don't have clear.
Let me start again:
1- I read some posts here about generating a buckload of pages in 3.45 microseconds or so...
So, i see two options on this. A) it's a template page, you feed the keyword list and get the buckload, or B) you have a large collection of texts (database, abc---.txt bunch of files, etc) and insert that content into a template, creating unique similar pages.
Ok, option A is fishing-in-a-barrel easy.
Option B suposes you have access to a lot of content. and people here were talking thousands of pages, not dozens or hundreds. So, unless you're shooting caffeine into the vein, or you're rupert murdoch and have 13527 writers at your command, no way you can get by yourself 10000 documents with 700 words apiece about wodgets, even if you've done nothing else for the last couple of years.
So, paraphrasing a post i saw here, when someone says "I'd rather generate 10000 pages in 0,000037 seconds with my generatorX, and save the trouble of writing content and get only some 500 pages in a year....", in your opinion this is option A, or option B?
Option B i knew it was bad. Anyway, thanks for nailing it on me. 8)
option A, what good do you get from it?
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Macro,
it's not the roll up my sleeve and get down to it that bothers me. It puzzles me that unless you've been harvesting, you can't get instant access to the buckload of content to generate the gazillion pages.
then again, if it was option A people were talking about, what good is it for?
Who on earth would say: "I've just come up with a great idea for a novel - where can I get all the paragraphs to put in it?"
Or: "I've thought of an excellent theme for a series of magazines... now all I need is some articles... how can I generate them?"
If you don't want to write a publication, s*d off and auto-generate a shop window with datafeeds... but please don't approach writing a content-based web publication in the same way that you approach putting together an automated spamazon clone with datafeed.
I'm tired of this foolishness where the writer wants something written without having to write it.
The auto-generated pages will not be "intelligent" or "useful", and you will end up with a bunch of garbage that cannot be used again.
The only other feature a piece of software like that has is the amount of cash you give to the guy who's selling it.
Stick to honest work. Do your own writing or find a partner who is good at it. Fill the web with good stuff. It will make you more money in the long run.
1- I read some posts here about generating a buckload of pages in 3.45 microseconds or so...
You don't even need a generator. Just do it automagically.
Google API call for the term you want - take the top ten ranking pages for that term, and pull it off of those. Spit it out into your own template. Put a big buy button on the top. Then, all you have to do is link to the script with a parameter (the keyword) to have your brand new page(s). It will rise to the top (within 72 hours) for medium-competitive keywords with only a couple PR4 links. Ride the fresh wave for three weeks until the page goes way down in ranking. Wash, rinse, repeat.
This is frowned upon by the major engines, of course, but I'd be a liar if I told you that it didn't work.
these pages will kill your site in the SEs before long, as the trickery is discovered. You may even lose your ability to list or advertise with the SEs, and they may even stop crawling your addresses.
Eh, only if it gets a human review. The bots haven't quite figured this one out, yet. Don't submit to directories, and you usually won't get caught for a while.
so suppose i do one of those harvests and get a loaded page with "the big buy button on top". That will give it a good visibility for a while until it's busted.
then it's another site burned, and start over again. refill and repeat... ok, so i understood that this can be used as a quick fix.
But in the long run it's a cat and mouse game, then. This strategy just keeps you building site after site to compensate for those that blow up on the SEs. what a waste of time...... 8P
what a waste of time
All depends on your objectives, my friend. If you're trying to build a site that will be around in 10 years, sure, it's a waste of time.
If you're trying to get 4000 pre-orders for a hot new product you know will be released tomorrow, and it takes 3.5 seconds to link to an autogen page, then it's not a waste of time.
so suppose i do one of those harvests and get a loaded page with "the big buy button on top". That will give it a good visibility for a while until it's busted.
The better way would be to examine those top ten pages and see what they are doing to get so high in the rankings.
Then, do better than what they are doing.
