Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 126.96.36.199
Forum Moderators: not2easy
joined:Sept 1, 2000
I think Brett once used a blogger script to create/manage/update the home page of WmW. I'm not sure if that's still the case.
I've had the best of intentions of starting up an SEO blog on my site but I've never actually gotten around to it.
To build on that just for a minute. There are a couple points that should be considered for a weblog to be successful in the search engines:
1) static pages. We all know this but not all weblog programs are created equal. Make sure the one you are using generates static pages rather than just pulling data on the fly. It will index better and will also render faster.
2) timing of the archives. Any good weblog will automatically archive your post on a regular basis ie: daily, weekly, monthly etc. Don't let you pages get too long. Set your archive to be run often enough to keep your main page at a reasonble size. Once again it will index better and render faster.
Content O' Rama, with minimal upkeep necessary after the initial site construction.
>between a blogged tip-o-the day page, and a Links topical directory (lord help me, I may use Z**s to hunt for links), and a searchable product information database...
Yep. Presto! You have a home-grown, browser-based content management system. Except for a blogger, I have all of the above, including a finely tuned spider to hunt for directory content. I use a much modified version of homefree to do some of what a blogger would do.
some hosts run disk space reapers that used to cause greymatter to do horrible things. I just popped buy Noah's site and it looks like there is a new version and he's really moving forward with the product. I would imagine that he's closed that hole by now.
There are heaps of these "blogs" - blogger, Livejournal, Manila and EditThisPage sites.. etc all over the Web. From observation there is an initial burst of enthusiasm, then they die a slow death in 90% of cases! A lot of creative energy goes into them, not sure how many people read them other than the author, his family and his dog..
That's not necessarily a bad thing of course. I beleive that Andy Warhol's prediction will eventually come true with the Web.. everybody should have their own 10 MGS of fame..
There are several notable exceptions of course. Some are very widely read. But my feeling is most find the rewards don't match the effort. For 6 years we have kept writing our diary type column in good ol' plain NotePad produced HTML, but even old dogs have to learn new tricks some time...
joined:Sept 1, 2000
Kidding folks. As soon as I figure out what you are all talking about and check out some of these sources I may then have some questions beyond, duh what?
Check out Blogger [blogger.com] and click on some of the Blogs Of Note on the left hand side of the page and you'll get an idea of what this is all about :).
More than 25 words, oh well.
<added>Drat! oilman, I'll get you for this!!!</added>
"blog", (I think) is actually shorthand for "Web Log" which started when people started putting up personal diaries/journals on the Web. Sort of like an online version of the those paper diaries people seomtimes kept before they went to bed = what i did today and what I thought, and what I learned!
They are usually very personal, and link to interesting sites they find on the Web and comment on them. So they tend to be written by indoviduals not origanizations, but having multiple authors in a community effort is gaining steam.
At one stage however it then moves to the next model - that of CMS (content Management system) software like Nuke, Post Nuke, Slash, Webthings, etc etc. The line is blurred but the main difference is that these are more complex with more complex permissions and a hirerarchy of authors, casuals, and "commenters"...
Some more resources I didnt mention before which relate to indexing rather than creating "blogs"...
[weblogs.com...] now has the last "blogs" updated on the Web, no matter what the program or non-program used to build them. Weblogs was the first site to try to bring together links to Weblogs in the same place. An idea of how many blogs there are on the Web - they list the last 3 hours of updated blogs and often this can be 200 and up. That's over 3 a minute, and these are only people that notify Weblogs.com for their updated..! Note for SEO's - <BOLD>Google crawls this page a lot..</B> -:
[daypop.com...] A brilliant simple site which searches for terms in the latest updated Weblogs by keyword. It also finds RSS news too, but that's another story! Just started - a few problems mainly in indexing catch all pages - but we use it it find gossip you wont find in the mainstream news...
These are two great resources for many webmasters running content or information sites...
RCjordan.. yes, we are setting up movable type to use multiple authors with different permissions. One great feature is that each author can use a "bookmarklet". A simple program attached to their tool bar, clicking on it from any page on the Web brings up a small form where they automatically create a "story" using whatever text they have selected and their comment and a title. Of course they dont have to link to a page, they can just enter plain text (or HTML). It publishes it to the site, without them ever having to go to the site! Blogger has a similar tool but i think it only works for the site owner.
joined:Sept 1, 2000
joined:Sept 1, 2000
I just feel that I have this stream of consciousness stuff my college writing instructor planted in my head 20 years ago in college and I canít seem to stem the tide. What I put out here is a tiny bit of what goes on in my head. I drink way too much coffee.
Iím just thinking that blogging would take the slack or something.
My goodness Robert, I respect you so much, I canít get over you writing that ;)
We can't let our Philosopher Queen of Canonicals go off blogging to save some bandwidth. Stay here with us where you belong... Maybe switch to green tea. It's a slower more sustained buzz, and it's supposed to help you live longer.
New versions of Radio Userland and Frontier should be out very soon, with some new features
I use GreyMatter for the script and found it to be highly custimizable. It did take a bit of tinkering to figure out all the templates. I have it set so it just displays a short "teaser" blurb on my home page with a link to the entire entry.
As a side note, here's an article I found some of you may find interesting:
Seems there are many uses for blogs...
While still in the midst of a site re-do, I've been absorbing all I can about not just the standard CSS specs, but trends using CSS and XML to present content in a flexible manner. I've found some wonderful, wonderful examples, including Noah Gray's. I don't think I'm alone when I say "we" designers sometimes get in a rut of our own style - and then you see a new trend or a new style done really well and you sit back and go, "Oh yeah- the world isn't flat AFTER all..." With renewed enthusiasm, you dip into a little of this and a little of that and, hopefully, "Art-meets-HTML" and it's something to shout about.
Okay- the bad side of blogging e.g rant:
I am sick to death of reading the inane ramblings of pseudo Shakespearean bloggers. Just what kind of ego thinks that misspelled crap is art, relevant, or remotely interesting? For crying out loud - when I went to school "I" was capitalized and the the numeral two wasn't shorthand for "to" or "too". Don't even get me started on some of the poor taste I've seen reflected under the guise of personal expression at many of the blog sites. <eww yuck>
Okay - okay - *I* have a mouth that would make a sailor blush - but that doesn't mean I'm going to scrawl it all over my web site witha casual, "in your face" attitude. I'd feel like I was "slacking" if that was the best I could come up with to share with my viewers.
I'm for the minimalist approach to everything. That includes <ahem> blogging. Restraint is the better part of valor.
I've looked at LOTS of blog sites lately. In most cases I haven't seen that a 'blog' is anything other than an ego gone rampant, lacking content, class, or anything close to style. It's all about "me, me, me!" What's on my mind! What I think! Look at me! It reminds me of a parakeet bobbing his little head up and down at the mirror. Except the mirror is actually web page.
Me thinks blogging is interesting from the technical standpoint, and useful for several applications (latest updates, news, etc.), but you'll have to dig deep for quality of content when visiting the bloggers en masse. It's a jungle out there.
the exact same thing is to be said of forums, private sites, web diaries...
Blogging is just a form of presenting content. A technique doesn't generate better or worse content, as the attempts at hypertext-literature etc have shown.
I also note one webloggers sig line "Being unpopular at school is no excuse for Weblogging" :)
Weblogs sure have brought out the introverts who can rant in public and let out their frustrations without risking physical exposure or having to defend themselves socially.. In some ways this is good, - social "outsiders" can have their own say at last But on the whole you are probably right - It's the American ideal of individualism and free speech gone mad... That's been known to produce America's greatest triumphs - and greatest disasters..
But there are some very very very good weblogs out there.