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Differences in Algo between Google and FAST

Rank well in one, in the bottom of the barrell in the other

     
4:54 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Does anybody know of any comparison on what differences there seems to be on the algos of the Google and FAST engines?

I notice that some sites rank very well for a few main keywords in Google, but FAST puts them pages below sites that don't even show up in Google.

One that seems to be showing through for my searches is the domain name. (i.e. www.kw1-kw2.com, www.keyword.com, and www.kw1--kw2.com)

What are the odds that the algo will change under new ownership? (the looks already changed, why not the innerworkings...)

5:01 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Funny you mentioned that, today I just noticed that most of the sites I've optimized lately have comparable rankings in both engines and only AV seems a bit out of touch. :)

As long as I keep that .0025-.003 link ratio (Google's inbounds divided by ATW's inbounds) I see similar results in both engines. Drop below .0025 and the disparity is noticeable. Not much of a metric, but it's the only one I have.

6:50 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes Fast tends to prefer kw1-kw2 domains, certainly if DMOZ takes over kw1-kw2 as anchortext. That is more so than Google.
8:11 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It seems to me that with solely on page factors Fast Google and Inktomi are presently quite similar, I have a page that's no.1 on all three, but the keyphrase is fairly obscure and uncompetitive.
It's when off-page factors come into play that major differences appear.
8:16 am on Mar 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

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does fast do something similar to googles page ranking to 'weighten' websites?
5:48 pm on Mar 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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@hakre
yes: called "StaticRank"

@vitaplease
I agree: domainnames can be very helpful, and subdomains as well, though getting of staticrank might be more difficult in this case.
(--> [keyword.domain.com...] or [keyword.domain.com)...]

4:11 am on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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FAST seems to have less emphasis on inbound anchor text as Google.
8:04 am on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Interesting thread. I am looking to improve my rankings slightly on FAST and Ink. On Google I'm seem to be OK, but am slightly lower on the others. Is it worth buying something like WPG to get the page set up correctly, or should I be concentrating on external factors (such as link pop) instead?

Also, is it worth looking into xml feeds for an engine like Ink, or does pay for inclusion suffice? (I am currently listed without having paid anything).

Thanks
Trodda

9:53 am on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Trodda

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for a bit on web position software (only a week old news)

7:02 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member steveb is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Fast loves domain names and sub domains and words on the page. It doesn't seem to be able to put the words into a context though.
 

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