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1- Can a server be banned?
2- Reasons?
3- What ca we do!!!!?
Thanks for your help
First, what makes you believe you are banned?
1- Can a server be banned?
2- Reasons?
3- What ca we do!!!!?
1. Yes, but this really depends on the infractions.
2. and 3. without more information I doubt anyone could provide an intelligent answer that wouldn't send you on a wild goose chase.
If for instance... all 50 domains are crosslinking to all other 50 domains this could be a problem.
If the host server belongs to someone else it's possible that they have done something to warrant a ban of all their IP's, however, this is rare and a less likely scenerio than the crosslinking one.
Again, carefully consider why you think your sites are ban, in general, banning occurs because something is wrong and in the great scheme of things it is relatively difficult to get banned without knowldge of why (if the sites were optimized by an SEO and not yourself, they would likely have the answer) so what is possibile wrong with your domains that may shed some light on this topic?
[edited by: fathom at 5:17 pm (utc) on July 17, 2002]
We own both servers.
Both servers host only our domains (around 50 domains)
Domains are cross-linked, most of the domains have links to the main 6 domains.
We have some duplicated content in 20 domains (around 40%), the remaining 30 have no duplicate content
How do u know we are banned?, Well i look for domain.com
doamin2.com... and i can't find any of my domains.
We were in the database, and suddenly all domains seem not to be in the database any longer
Take a look at each (or some) main page of your domains preferable the ones that have your crosslinks pointing to them (the specific page linked to).
It the google bar shows this as an all white bar (PageRank or PR0) the likelihood of being banned is a good bet.
NOTE: sometimes internal pages will show PR0 (all white bar) if,
1. no inbound links to the page, and
2. there is little PageRank that is transferred from other internal site pages (e.g. - your main page show PR2 or PR1).
If a banned has occurred, your crosslinking strategy and the duplicated content have probably induced this problem...
Also, google results have been mixed since the last dance, it is possible that a google burp has occurred with your sites so if the googlebar show some PR (a little green), I wouldn't worry about this just yet.
The problem is only with FAst/Alltheweb
If you are not banned in google it is highly unlikely that AllTheWeb and Lycos has penalized you, they are much more tolerant.
An update has recently occurred at AllTheWeb and Lycos, give it some time.
Normally they ban sites by IP's but under "extreme circumstances" they'll ban the entire machine..
You best bet is to try to email them and see if you can make any progress..
Related Thread [webmasterworld.com]
I doubt however you fit in this category, google would more than likely dump you long before ATW and Lycos.
Be patient.
If it continues setup a site (with no crosslinking from your other sites) with an inbound link from a non local server and see if that site gets in the index.
Dazz
I'm beginning to think that a whole server can be banned by Fast.
I suspected in onother thread [webmasterworld.com], that my site may have been banned because I have incorpotated some ODP results in it. I don't think so anymore!
I have 4 domains with different IP's, they are not crosslinked and they have all different topics. Not one of these sites is listed by FAST! They used to be, but dissappeared in the end of February. The only thing these sites have in common, as far as I can see, is the server. My sites don't contain any adult stuff, but I happen to know (because of a secutity issue my host had), that I share the server with some adult webmasters. Perhaps one of them has done something that has caused us all to be banned.
I wrote to FAST last week, but haven't been answered yet.
Not one of these sites is listed by FAST! They used to be, but dissappeared in the end of February.
I think it's important to note that a site or group of sites not being listed by any particular search engine doesn't necessarily mean that they've been "banned" by that search engine. It's a word that gets tossed around quite a lot, and quite casually; but none of the SE's list every site that exist, and they drop and add sites all the time.
In samba's case the first thing that would come to my mind was that a technical problem may have caused the servers to be unreachable during some period of time.
Are both servers in the same physical location? how reliably and redundantly are they connected to the net?
In addition to technical considerations, any time a site disappears from a SE database there's this important question: how many links to the site were or are in that same database?
As FAST's representative said in the other thread [webmasterworld.com], "we will not sacrifice quality for quantity" as the database grows... in other words, some sites may be dropped by any search engine in order to make room for other sites.
Even if it was the result of a penalty, though, it wouldn't mean that "the servers were banned." If all of the domains on the servers were identified, theoretically (since I have no idea whether anything shady was being done), as "spammy," any penalty may have been site-based, not server based. Since there are no other sites on those servers, you couldn't tell the difference.
I wouldn't take this as evidence that FAST or anyone else bans entire servers.
I think it's important to note that a site or group of sites not being listed by any particular search engine doesn't necessarily mean that they've been "banned" by that search engine.
JayC,
It would be kind of easier to understand that four topic relevant sites are banned than just simpy ignored by a SE. Being ignored would mean that FAST is not close to as sophisticated as we have thought.
