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My sites come back in results when I search for the url so I know they are in the database. Do I have to pay for inclusion to be ranked in results?
Am I alone on this? Help is appreciated.
But to rank you have to get the basics right.
Ususally - and I mean usually, not always - a site does well with Google and with Yahoo should rank good in FAST too.
Is your site freshly indexed - in that case give it some time.
How many pages are in the index - is it only one, then try to get more in.
Do you have used tactics, which may have caused a spam flag raised?
But only when they become important enough. Otherwise, keep dreaming Fast.
Other sites are sort of new, couple of months, all pages listed but not ranking at all....
My industries are competetive, so I am really at a loss as to why I do so well at Google and off the radar on Lycos.
Is there a way to find out if banning has been imposed?
Personally I've seen several sites making it to the index in full, with each and all inner pages. None were paid.
For those of you who say they have more than one page, is it a commercial listing or personal/informational/community type pages?
I checked for a client's page and her entire site was in there. She's an opera singer. However, she ranks number 2 for her own name (beneath a .edu online article about her!). Rotten algo if you ask me...
I queried my business' name and I ranked #29, after 28 laughable and completely irrelevant results. That's a bottom of the barrel algo/database.
I've at least a hundred links to me, but FAST is only aware of 12. And four of those are redundant! They counted links twice! Rotten database, if you ask me...
There is no way I will trust my money and my business to a search engine that still has a LOT of catching up to do. NO WAY.
[edited by: martinibuster at 12:21 am (utc) on June 15, 2002]
Moreover, the question still stands: Why is it that AV and all the other search engines can answer a simple business name query but FAST/ATW falls on it's face?
[edited by: Marcia at 7:20 am (utc) on June 15, 2002]
Assuming you mean new sites added in the past six months, that offers some hope (also dpeper's msg too - thanks for that).
I wish I knew what I was doing wrong then - like I said, all my sites that rank well in Google only have one page indexed in FAST in past six months.
No point resubmitting if FAST is a crawler anyway; clients can't afford PFI; so I'll just keep hoping then?!
I think, re crawling is the good reason to try this service.. Other thoughts will be appreciated!
The basic version offered works per url - that is:per page.
You pay for 1 page to be included and refreshed every 24-48 hours for one year.
Lycos.com also offers an extended version, where you pay a flat rate depending on the number of pages and get a site search facility for your site as added value.
results are your pages get included and refreshed each 24-48 hours. Period. No influence on ranking.
General impressions ...
Lots of unclustered results - it seems that the algo. can't spot (or isn't bothered by) the sort of aliasing/machine names grouping, eg, example1.tackytactics-r-us.com, example2.tackytactics-r-us.com,
- one set of SERPS had 4 consecutive pages of this junk, all effectively for the same site, just a mix of deeplinks/sections. Poor, very poor.
Seems to be a need for same sort of PR thingummy - the results are great for the small guys, but, ultimately, it should be the bigger sites that come in first - OK, OK, not in all fields, but, evolution is evolution in the long term. There are sites showing up on my keywords/phrases that I haven't seen anywhere for months, if not years. And rightly so. A victory for democracy say you, a pain for the user say I - these are small-time sites that should be showing up for very specific-locale searches, not on the first page for generic searches.
And how are they showing over 5,000 pages for my site? Pretty much everything is static, there just isn't that much to get into. Google and AV have got it right at around 2,000 pages, and this isn't a case of Fast riding roughshod over robots.txt, it's simply that there are not that many pages. Weird.
I agree with martinibuster, I am not impressed with their algo.
When I search for same term in quotes I am ranked number 2...
*note it is a competetive term with 45,000 results with term in quotes
Any sense to this?
I paid for one page at lycos.com that was in within a week, ranking nicely.
2) I can not understand.. Do they work as INK, per 1 page, or will they re crawl all the site starting from URL every 48 hours? I think, probably like INK
Just the one page, but the rest of the site is in there since. Most not optimized yet, but a few are ranking top ten, between 200K and 325K. The index page is now ranking in the spot the paid page was, so I changed the paid page to target the *main* phrase which is a little rough; it's a bit spammed up with some sites cross-linking a lot.
I hadn't paid much attention to FAST for a while, but these pages are ranking very similarly to Google - except they're showing the description meta.
FWIW, I just got my hands on this site end of March. It's only been up since around February, but has a lot of links already, just about all of them topically related or close.
One thing is for sure though: Just because Google returns a specific selection of sites in a specific ranking does not mean this reflects how the web really is or should be. Every engine has a different view on the web.
In other words: our positions in Google are no guarantee for positions in any other engine.
I for one would really really like to see at least one other engine with a huge slice of the market.
You know, I just love alternatives from which I can choose.