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Seriously worried by lenght 0:00 visits

What's the problem?

         

silverbytes

7:37 pm on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Please help me find the solution!
72 of my 148 today's logs entries are lenght 0:00

Thats a serious problem. Many of these results are #1 to 8 Yahoo SERP of my site.
In many cases I'm redirecting to a newer site with the info, in some others don't or I'm redirecting to the actual page in the same site.

However can't find the problem... It takes a looong time to access my pages but don't think is a hosting problem (because the half of other pages loads normally)

Some entries of log (changed to avoid mention my site)

200.xx.yyy.197 - - [16/Jul/2004:04:58:22 -0500] "GET /some/bla.htm HTTP/1.1" 301 269 "http://ar.search.yahoo.com/search/ar?p=blue+widgets&meta=fl%3D1%26vl%3Dlang_es&fr=fp-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"

200.zz.****.29 - - [16/Jul/2004:12:27:47 -0500] "GET /bla/bla.htm HTTP/1.0" 301 257 "http://ar.search.yahoo.com/search/ar?p=blue+widget&meta=fl%3D1%26vl%3Dlang_es&fr=fp-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

200.vv.zz.209 - - [16/Jul/2004:12:57:53 -0500] "GET /bla/bla.htm HTTP/1.1" 301 269 "http://ar.search.yahoo.com/search/ar?p=blue%2widgets&meta=fl%3D1%26vl%3Dlang_es&fr=fp-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)"

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[edited by: rogerd at 8:07 pm (utc) on July 16, 2004]
[edit reason] No specific IPs, please... [/edit]

jdMorgan

8:37 pm on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Your redirect code may be inadvertently causing a redirection loop -- Each request will be repeatedly redirected until the browser or server redirection limit is reached. This is fairly common problem.

Check your error log and use the server headers checker [webmasterworld.com] to manually request your slow pages and see if they redirect repeatedly.

Jim

silverbytes

3:26 am on Jul 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello, and thanks.

Used the server error head and returned this:

HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 03:23:57 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.8 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634a mod_ssl/2.8.18 OpenSSL/0.9.7a
Location: [mysite.com...]
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1


Server response time:less than 1 second

Seems fine to me..

My error log has this data, but have no idea of what to do with this...

Fri Jul 16 20:56:44 2004] [error] [client 200.41.123.74] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bariloche/ilirska/ilirska3.
[Fri Jul 16 20:56:44 2004] [error] [client 200.41.123.74] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/albacora/albacora
[Fri Jul 16 20:14:08 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/estilos.css
[Fri Jul 16 20:14:08 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/villagaroupeta2.jpg
[Fri Jul 16 20:05:47 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/estilos.css
[Fri Jul 16 20:05:47 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/villagaroupeta2.jpg
[Fri Jul 16 20:05:22 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/dastartarugas/estilos.css
[Fri Jul 16 20:05:22 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/dastartarugas/dastartarugas3.jpg
[Fri Jul 16 20:02:42 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/dastartarugas/estilos.css
[Fri Jul 16 20:02:42 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/dastartarugas/dastartarugas3.jpg
[Fri Jul 16 20:02:21 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/estilos.css
[Fri Jul 16 20:02:21 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/villagaroupeta2.jpg
[Fri Jul 16 20:02:15 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/estilos.css
[Fri Jul 16 20:02:15 2004] [error] [client 200.104.15.193] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/bombinhas/villagaroupeta/villagaroupeta2.jpg
[Fri Jul 16 19:12:12 2004] [error] [client 200.1.118.75] File does not exist: /home/z3r0/public_html/img/logo-onlinehoteleshome.gif

I don't see bad pages except some lost pictures...
Any clue?

jdMorgan

3:31 am on Jul 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> see if they redirect repeatedly.

Now use the server header checker to request [mysite.com...]
If you get another 301, redirecting to the same URL you requested, then you've got a redirection loop problem.
(There is no reason for a page to redirect to itself).

Jim

silverbytes

12:25 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Did that the url returns:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:21:28 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.8 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634a mod_ssl/2.8.18 OpenSSL/0.9.7a
Last-Modified: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 23:34:55 GMT
ETag: "168d88-2843-40fb091f"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 10307
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html

...

Is there any other things to check?
Revised httacess and looks ok to me... is there any way to validate it? Any common syntax errors...

Could be the hosting?
Any clues?

a 12% of my entries are lenght 0:00

jdMorgan

12:33 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If your headers check out, then I'd suspect these 00:00 length "visits" are people using the old URLs, which get instantly redirected, or robot visits, which usually don't follow click-paths the way people do.

Jim

silverbytes

1:47 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They are yahoo results wich shows my old url, when you click that url the redirection is performed leading to the page in the same server or my newer server...

But why are they 0:00?
Does that means the user leaves the page before load?

silverbytes

1:49 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They are yahoo results wich shows my old url, when you click that url the redirection is performed leading to the page in the same server or my newer server...

But why are they 0:00?
Does that means the user leaves the page before load?

What if someone types the old url what leads to the new one? Does that 0:00 entry say he left the page or what?