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lawman

9:02 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Paid the fee, got an email today stating they would not put it in the directory because it lacked unique content. Granted, criminal defense is criminal defense. However, I went out of my way to make sure I had content others did not have. I've even been complimented by competitors on the quality of my site. Anyone done a successful appeal? If so, what procedures should I take?

lawman

Quinn

9:06 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Lawman,

I haven't heard of anyone having a problem getting listed in a long time. They seem to list about anything for $300 anymore. Out of curiosity, was the title or description which you gave Yahoo similar in any way to any others listed in that category?

How many pages of content?

BTW, the appeals process seems to be much better these days than it has been. Feel free to sticky me the url if you want an outside opinion.

korkus2000

9:11 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Was it a regional listing? I have seen many lawyer's sites being added to local georgia cats. It seems thats all they've been adding up here in the north georgia areas. I really don't know why yours would be rejected. I really don't think your site is ordinary for your feild. Is there a lot of listings in your cat?

lawman

9:29 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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korkus2000:

The category was Georgia Atlanta Criminal Law Firms.

None of the firms I checked out in the Y! directory had the same depth of content on the subjects I covered. I assume the Y! editor doesn't understand the arcane nature of Georgia criminal law. I intend to give Y! some detailed examples and hope that carries the day.

If anyone has successfully appealed a rejection, I would be be interested in your approach.

lawman

korkus2000

9:48 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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After going through the cat I am surprized that most of them are listed while yours rejected. One of them is so poorly constructed I can't get past the homepage. I think only 2 have even close to the breadth information that your site has and they are the premier defense attorneys in Atlanta. I am amazed they would reject the site. Hope the appeal goes well.

SEOPTI

10:27 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Most Yahoo! editors have no idea about browsers and internet, this is
the problem. They are newbies with no plan what's going on.

NameNick

10:43 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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SEOPTI,

Where does this information/knowledge come from? Any proof for this claim (apart from maybe obvious things like the low quality of some entries and descriptions)?

NN

[edited by: NameNick at 11:00 pm (utc) on Oct. 7, 2002]

lawman

10:44 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

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All right guys, no hijacking. :)

lawman

korkus2000

11:37 pm on Oct 7, 2002 (gmt 0)

lawman

1:21 am on Oct 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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All right. I discovered that I wasn't a thorough reader. At the bottom of the page was an explanation that my new site has "overlapping" content with my existing site. I sent them a detailed explanation distinguishing the one page of general information on the new site from 32 specific pages on the old site.

However, it got me to wondering how Google would view this. Would that one general page on the new site (which is hyperlinked to the old site) be considered spam?

BTW, Google just got done crawling my new site but it does not appear in the SERPs yet.

lawman

mack

2:04 am on Oct 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I dont think one general page on 2 sites would cause a great Google problem, either from a cross linking or a duplicate content issue. From what I belive the problem arises when you have 10% duplicate content. I often wonder just how eager google are to stamp out duplicate content. Look just how many sites use ODP feeds. Surely this is duplicate content.

lawman

1:47 am on Oct 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Update:

I appealed the denial. Just got an email telling me the appeal was successful. I'm thrilled - I think.

lawman

pmac

1:59 am on Oct 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Good Job Lawman! Why not celebrate with a new rig? :)

lawman

2:02 am on Oct 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Why not celebrate with a new rig?

I was kinda hoping someone would try to talk some common sense into me. :)

lawman

lawman

2:11 am on Oct 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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FWIW. Anyone interested in the text of my appeal can sticky mail me and I will give you a URL to read it.

lawman

coconutz

2:48 am on Oct 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks lawman, nice appeal.

:)If you need someone to drive the car home for you I could jump in my canoe and paddle on over there.........oh, it's this week-end?
&*#%@#!

2_much

1:54 am on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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A week ago I'd congratulated you Lawman. Today, I still congratulate you but with less enthusiasm. That listing probably won't send you a substantial amount of traffic, even if properly optimized. This change killed the value of a directory listing in Yahoo.

lawman

2:10 am on Oct 17, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Unfortunately, 2_much, I think you are right. But having a listing has to have some value while not being listed cost me three hundred bucks and provides no value.

lawman