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Yahoo ranking and link pop

link analysis with Yahoo logic

         

asomani

8:50 am on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Does Yahoo uses link popularity analysis in its ranking algorithm? Or, just click popularity and title with descriptions?

thejenn

1:54 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Title
URL
Description
Cat Name
Click Thru

I'd add to that that many (including myself) believe that a click on a site at #5 is worth more than a click on a site at #1. This helps the lower sites move up more quickly if they are receiving a reasonable amount of clicks. The theory being that if site #5 has is that far down and has as many clicks as #1 does...it likely deserves to be #2 or #1.

jk3210

3:44 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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theJenn,

>>Title
URL
Description
Cat Name
Click Thru <<

So, you feel that url carries more weight than description, or was that a mis-print?

thejenn

4:13 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Sorry...those were not in a particular order. Just listed them as they came to me.

If you want them in order, here's my best guess:

Title
Click Thru
Description
Cat Name
URL

Chef_Brian

2:14 am on Oct 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Title
description
key-words-in-url
pagerank and link pop

I would say that the title is by far the most important6, the description is also very very important. Also try to get your choosen keyword phrase in the description as well. After that I am not sure which is more important .... pagerank or keywords in the url. Of course if you have a pagerank 6 or 7 site that will sway your listing quite a bit due to the high google ranking site (with all that pagerank).

I just listed a site and nailed it! Ranking number 6 out of nearly 1000 sites .... the site has no pagerank simply because it is new.

If you are able to target a keyword phrase before you start building your site it will really help with your yahoo submission quite a bit because you can choose a domain name with those keywords and craft your site around those keywords.

Chef Brian

eljefe3

4:07 am on Oct 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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What I've seen in spam laden categories, is that sites with a high PR from the previous domain owner seem to rank very high provided the description has all the keywords thrown in. The domain name itself seems to have no weight.

asomani

6:02 am on Oct 5, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanks a lot guys :)

I am very impressed with this forum. I have also launched an online forum at my new site recently, I wish it becomes as popular as this one.

Chef_Brian

9:47 pm on Oct 6, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey Eljefe3,

Yes, those spamming catagories on yahoo ....with the domain containing no keywords at all but the title and sometimes if the site owner gets lucky the description leads me to believe that keywords in the domain "help" but the gold is in the title and description. Once you add a pagerank of 6 or more you seam to rise in the serp's as long as you have the title covered and descr.

I wonder how those yahoo editors handle submissions from these type of spamming "here today gone tomorow" webmasters. Seams more locical to work on a domain name with keywords and build up some pagerank .... Over the long term of course and this takes work.

Chef Brian

kris

10:55 pm on Oct 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know how Yahoo uses or gets this click-thru information?

Do they block an IP from clicking on a certain site more than once in a certain time period? Theoretically, can one increase thier Yahoo listing by clicking thier own site a bunch of times?

Doesn't seem right...

Quinn

11:02 pm on Oct 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The domain name is useful to fit in the niche keywords you know they're not going to allow you in the description.

eljefe3

11:04 pm on Oct 8, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>Does anyone know how Yahoo uses or gets this click-thru information?

Look at the link from any yahoo listing. It includes your search term and what the ranking is of the site and the number of overall search terms and a referral string.

In the past you could make sites rise by getting your friends and neighbors to click on specific listings, but click pop does not appear to have any weight any more. Still if you have friends and neighbors it doesn't hurt to give the sites a click.

Chef Brian-- I meant to say the title instead of the description-- my bad. The title is the most important and from what I've seen lately, if you pay $299 then you are entitled to make up a title that is keyword loaded that doesn't get edited.

Hunter

2:39 am on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Well there is some new criteria now folks, it's called Google!

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Beachboy

5:42 am on Oct 11, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That referrer string alluded to above reminds me that Yahoo once used Directhit technology to track how long a visitor stayed at a site. I don't believe Yahoo was tracking how many people were visiting a site. Do we have any reason to believe Yahoo is tracking clicks now instead of the duration of a visit?

Beachboy

7:38 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Would someone care to comment on the question in Post 13?

2_much

9:09 pm on Oct 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey Beachboy,

I really really don't think Yahoo uses clickthrough technology at all.