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What if Yahoo Switches to Inktomi?

How much percentage of visitors you expect to loss?

         

gopi

8:36 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ok ,lets take a quick survey so that we will be better prepared if that doom thing happens ...

My industry is non tech/consumer oriented. My present Yahoogoogle traffic is around 40% (higher than google itself )...i think its high because of the non techy nature of my site.

I expect to loose immediately this entire 40% traffic but think will regain 10 - 12% in couple of months due to the large chunk of users migrating from yahoo to google because of the poor quality yahoo-ink results...

Guys pls jumb in and give your figs ...

[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 8:54 pm (utc) on Sep. 25, 2002]
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martin

8:44 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't think there is much to lose for me.

Google: 56%
Yahoogle: 4.8%

My site is tech oriented though, kinda the opposite of yours. I don't get much traffic from MSN now.

4eyes

8:48 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My larger sites will suffer.

Ink just doesn't cover as many pages as Google.

MikeMike

8:52 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yahoogle: 7%

I would expect to get about the same in replacement from Inktohoo.

rcjordan

9:06 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I don't expect much difference. Though on some of the larger general content sites that bring in google traffic on deep pages I may lose some, as 4eyes points out.

Terrier

9:10 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Would not make much difference,I might consider paying for pages again but I doubt it.

Powdork

9:16 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google 55%
Yahoogle 14%
AOogLe 10%
MSNktomi 9%
FAST/All the Web 4%
Asta la Vista 3%
Netscapoogle 2.5%

Course my stats are lousy. Take it for what its worth.

dazz

9:25 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thankfully I rank well for 'Website Matches'on Yahoo! so i tend to come up for my keywords on yahoo before they get to the Yahoogle pages. Although I will lose a small percentage....I hope they stick with Google personally anyway as I dont think it will help Yahoo if they change...they will lose searchers I believe.

NFFC

9:29 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'd be up big time, still hope it won't happen ;)

martin

9:40 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>I hope they stick with Google personally anyway as I dont think it will help Yahoo if they change...they will lose searchers I believe.

Yes, but I think it would be better if they did make the switch (not to Inktomi though, something like Fast or Teoma probably).

Too much Google is dangerous for all of us.

jatar_k

9:46 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If they switch to ink I'm laughing, I have clients that do very well in ink.

Rumbas

9:47 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>expect to lose
None. I'll clap my hands and do a little dance.
Hey Ink, give 'em an offer they can't refuse ;)

dazz

9:47 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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true martin, id be happy with FAST although thats only for selfish reasons.

Terrier

9:51 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If it was Fast now that would be good news.

msr986

9:54 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'd be happier with INK. Having all the SE's listing Google results is like having all of your eggs in one basket. If Google decides to Bless you with pr0 you're in big trouble. If Y! goes with INK, at least you wouldn't loose all of your results!

Beachboy

11:39 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'd prefer to see Yahoo do a deal with WiseNut. I am very impressed with them. WiseNut does need some tweaking, tho. Freshen the results some, improve the speed and it will be dynamite. Better than FAST by a longshot, much bigger index than Teoma. A worthy Google competitor.

volatilegx

11:41 pm on Sep 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I'd love to see this happen. Ink is a cinch to get multiple good rankings in.

MikeMike

12:15 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google 55%
Yahoogle 14%
AOogLe 10%
MSNktomi 9%
FAST/All the Web 4%
Asta la Vista 3%
Netscapoogle 2.5%

Darn scary that we are getting 70-90% of our traffic from one SE.

Paully

12:42 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)



Here are mine:

1 Google -- 61.38%
2 Yahoo -- 28.05%
3 AOL NetFind -- 7.04%
4 Microsoft Network -- 1.50%
5 Lycos --1.25%
6 AltaVista -- 0.37%
7 iWon -- 0.37%

I think I will suffer with Ink vs Google @ Yahoo...

WebStart

12:50 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Daz said

>Thankfully I rank well for 'Website Matches'on Yahoo! so i tend to come up for my keywords on yahoo before they get to the Yahoogle pages. Although I will lose a small percentage....I hope they stick with Google personally anyway as I dont think it will help Yahoo if they change...they will lose searchers I believe. <

That's me to a T.

Re other postings about not having all one's egss in one basket: It is true that all one's eggs in one basket is not always good, but as someone else said (can't remember who -- Warren Buffet?) long ago (re the stock market): put all your eggs in one basket (if it is a good basket), and then watch it very very carefully.

Bentler

1:13 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yahoogle, 5%
MSNktomiOvertureLooksmartZeal, 8%

I'd expect Inktomi would make up 4% if Yahoo switched, so a 1% loss.

rfgdxm1

10:06 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>I'd prefer to see Yahoo do a deal with WiseNut. I am very impressed with them.

Then I have to figure that you are one of the very few who think so. ;) From what I can see, it doesn't look like Wisenut is even out of beta yet. Perhaps that will change with Looksmart buying them.

dazz

10:31 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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What about a suprise and get 'GigaBlast'! look what they did to Google. Nobody had heard of them before Yahoo! gave them the contract.

To be honest that would make it good fun and shock a few people too! I would say that GigaBlast would probably have to do a little work on the over spamming of keywords on page.

chiyo

10:43 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Dazz, gotta admit im still surprised when i hear the argument that nobody had heard about Google before yahoo used them, but it gets repeated so much there must be some truth in it!

As far as i remember G was quite well known well before y! used them, there were separate sections for them in webmaster forums, academics and hi tech people used it a lot, and our percentage of google referrals were around 20% well before Y! used them.

Gigablasts development is at an incredibly relativly primitive state of development compared to Google when y! first incorporated their results. And Google awareness was also much much higher then than Giga is now. I think G! already had a staff including those famous gaggle of phd's while Giga seems to have one guy, his dog, and a database that keeps on crashing!

The only place i hear about gigablast is WebmasterWorld where people usually get excited when they see their sites indexed immediately. It seems to cloud the fact that nobody uses it except for webmasters looking at their positions and trying to feel good!

Sorry for being off topic. I think its pretty hard for me what we would lose. Suddenly our MSN referrals have gone skyward, so if that is reflecting Inktomi, we are not toot worried, despit Yahoogle delivering is around 17% of our referrals.

[edited by: chiyo at 10:49 am (utc) on Sep. 26, 2002]

caine

10:45 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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It would'nt bother me who yahoo go with, if inktomi, they have to display ink results, fortunately, already listed in INK.

dazz

10:49 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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To be honest chiyo i dont think i was around before Yahoo got Google so I cant remember how big Google where!?!?! I was really just quoting from what I had read up on it and people do seem to believe that they where pretty unknown.........I do agree Gigablast do need to do some serious work on there algo but i thought id throw them into the hat for a laugh. :)

chiyo

11:00 am on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Dazz, yep the "Y! made Google" spin is an urban legend. They were already established as the engine returning the most relevant results from a large database back then amongst most industry people, researchers, and other who needed good SERPS. It would have continued to gain market share IMHO and taken over AV in a few months.

Y!, with its broad brand, however, did give Google a big push to speed up it's gaining the position of "everyman's" search engine it has now.

(Not to be confused with "Everyman" of repute around here for his anti-google site! I dont think Goog is his fave search engine somehow :)

martin

7:50 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Gigablast spidered my site and included it in their index in a few minutes ;-))

I was surprised when I saw it #1 just after I added it.

/edit Gigablast not Gigabot

DrCool

8:04 pm on Sep 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The visitors I would loose from Yahoo/Google would probably be made up for with the Inktomi listings I have. Most of the keywords I deal with have a large number of directory listings anyway and I rank very well on those so it shouldn't hurt my much at all.