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I'll go first: Yahoo is the largest for me and gives about 40% more traffic than MSN (2nd) for similar positioning. Only about 1% go to the directory first and click. Main keyword is non-competitive and site shows up #2 in a keyword search. Straight Google is next followed closely by Alta, all with similar positioning. GoogleHoo is fourth with about half as much traffic as AltaVista.
>...what is the difference between Yahoo and Google-Yahoo?
From what I know Yahoo (a directory) is using Google(a search engine) listings for secondary results. This alliance makes it an hybrid service. If a user searches for "tent" Yahoo listings will supply him plenty of results but if some other user is looking for a "tent on a cartop rack" only a few results will show. Then Yahoo will offer an option to "go to Web pages match" wich uses Google's Seach Engine technology. This hybrid service overcomes the limits of both technologies.
>If I pay Yahoo for a listing they can reject it and keep my money, right?
Absolutely right. The money you pay to Yahoo only garantees that your Web site will be seen by a Web surfer (a real human person)Most sites that are rejected where not submitted in the "right" category. If some Web site have a commercial or corporate purpose you should start at "Business&Economy" and then look for the proper category. The best way to make sure that you submit in the right category is to search keywords that are related to the site you want to submit and verify in wich category the competition is listed.
>I have a very well done and professional looking page which is still a doorway page for an affiliate program when you look closely at it. Would I be wasting my money to submit It to Yahoo?
Yes, Yahoo is only listing Web sites. A real human will look closely at it. Yahoo does not list anything past [yourdomain.com...]
links from other sites 3595
other SE 44
but more than half the traffic is unlisted...the conclusion is that more people come to us from yahoo than from any other single place though not by a wide margin
that's for the English language part of our site...the multiple languages section will tell a different story, but since it involves referrals from a lot more places it will be a while before I'v got a decent way of extracting some data from the noise
I've been getting a lot more traffic from google & yahoogle than from Yahoo's actual directory lately... generally it's google.com at #1, google.yahoo.com at #2, and trailing *far* behind is search.yahoo.com at #3.
The google/yahoo combo is unstoppable for me... I still get more referrals from "bookmarks" (which I think just means the logs don't show any referrer at all), but the google/yahoo sites stomp all the other SEs into the ground.
Site 1 uses Goto; Site 2 does not. Here are the stats:
Site 1: Yahoo 36.6% MSN 19.25% Goto 12.36%, Google 10.74%, Excite 6.2%, Lycos 4.3%.
Site 2 (I don't bid on Goto for this site): Yahoo 74.6%; Google 7.9 % ; Excite 7.3%; MSN 4.5%.
The results are somewhat skewed as the they are from inception of my sites (2 years ago) and their original listing on Yahoo! Exite, Lycos, MSN and others at that time, and Google only really began to matter later, about 9 months ago. Also AOL is not factored in here as my tracker does not, for whatever weird reason, count it as a search engine. But results from AOL would probably at least equal MSN or Google. Also results are skewed by the fact that MSN has changed its **!!@@##$%^!! Algo so many times my rankings on MSN just get bounced all over the place. My rankings on all the other SEs -- including Google -- have stayed consistent. As Regards AltaVista: gave up on that SE a long long time ago. I don't even bother to try and rank good on it anymore. They are too difficult, and just do not seem to return good results for anything; and don't do a good job of ranking what they do return -- IMHOP.
Definitely Yahoo! despite all its faults, is still the place to be for most topics.
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