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Yahoo Rumor

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Rugles

1:15 pm on Jul 18, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The rumor is that M$ is buying Yahoo in November.
That would mean M$ would have a bigger chunk of Google.
Could also explain why Y is not awarding a contact to any search company because they will not be around to see it to the end.

Or maybe it is not true.

angiolo

12:02 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Lisa, I agree with chiyo!

> tech industry would not be where they are today without them..

You are right. Without the MS monopoly the tech industry woul be more advanced.

I think that the M$ software is toooo expensive for what they offer. Every new realesed has a lot of bugs; and M$ doesn't correct the bugs! M$ prefers to release a new program and so on.

Any program I can compare with M$ is better! ( I am thinking about Adobe, Corel, Linux, Dreamweaver) just not to speak about Mac; my impression is M$ is trying to Mirror mac.

Mark_A

12:43 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If M$ were to buy Yahoo that would be a significant reason for me to avoid it immediately.

I am not completely anti M$ by any stretch, I use some of their products but I just do not believe in putting all my eggs in one basket.

Especially when you consider that the basket is controlled by someone already ~ the richest on the planet and not displaying any reduction in acquisitiviness or etc ... if anyone could have a significant impact on 3rd world poverty or reducing 1st world to the same ... its that man
:-)

I would spend more to get away from this monopoly than to go with it. Considering spending more time on star office etc and open source wherever possible... assuming that I have confidence it may remain OS that is witness gif / jpeg / hyperlink ..

If its not enough our governments watching our every net move, Dear Bill wants to as well, and he wants into my virtual wallet and passport as well, well I think he has had a pretty good take out of my wallet already considering original purchases, upgrades company forced upgrades .. pc forced upgrades etc etc ..

skibum

2:38 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Mark_A - I'm no big fan of MSFT, however the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation [gatesfoundation.org] has doled out nearly 5 billion [gatesfoundation.org] dollars to a variety of causes around the world.

This doesn't excuse their business practices and it is the customers and stockholders that from which the $$$ really comes, but they do send a lot of $$$ around the world for various purposes.

On the other hand, there was that school or kids foundation somewhere (can't find the thread or article) that was attempting to use some antiquated version of Window's and MSFT abruptly tried to put a stop to that even though they don't support the software anymore and it would cost them nothing.

wardbekker

3:55 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Some people choose microsoft software, some others choose not. Fine with me. The question that pops into my mind is; when this rumor is for real, how will that effects Yahoo Services. I'm thinking Yahoo Mail vs. Hotmail. And what about changes in their keep-it-simple-stupid design methodology (although that has changes a lot with all that add stuff).

richlowe

3:57 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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keep-it-simple-stupid design methodology

Shouldn't that read "keep-it-simple-and-stupid"?

Richard

Mark_A

5:13 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Skibum >Mark_A - I'm no big fan of MSFT, however the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation has doled out nearly 5 billion dollars to a variety of causes around the world. <

No arguments with that Skibum but I think we all have to decide what our own agenda's are and get on with them.

Bill Gates and his company played the game of business arguably better than anyone of their generation to date. They will decline at some point its just inevitable a matter of time only.

However if you have ever spent lots of hours trying to get an effect you know is possible in MS word, or finding that excel did not quite do what you wanted or that your customers are suddenly sending you files in M$ Ver-X+1 when you have Version X1 or X-1 so you have to buy more ... (and it aint cheap) if you have ever had that awful reaslisation that most MS office users are still actually only using a fraction of the functionality of office pro for Win3.1 and do not really need (though I am sure they like) their Win2k or Xp or whatever machines and software upgrades that M$ marketing campaigns have cleverly caused them to "need" you suddenly have to ask yourself ... wait a moment whose agenda is it that I am living and paying for?

So if M$ were to buy Yahoo, I would close my Yahoo email accounts the next day and .. Yahoo are becoming pop up heaven but I leave the rest to you.

You guys can keep that foundation in billions if you like :-)

Me I will use as old versions as I can get my hands on and Open source wherever possible etc etc ....

Heck Skibum my government already takes about 50% of our pretax income through all sorts of devious schemes :-( we have NO pension security, fat cats are ripping off our share values and UKGov have started raiding private pensions while awarding themselves 25% improvements, do you folks want to give Bill the rest you your hard earned - go ahead :-) perhaps that will keep taxman off my back :-)

Lisa

5:49 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yes, Microsoft is aggressive. But I Like that in a company I invest in. I love Microsoft for all the easy of use they have done to the desktop PC. I truly don't see another OS that matches everything it does on the desktop.

On the other hand I exclusively use FreeBSD, MySQL, Plain C, Perl, PHP and other open-source software for all my websites and technology. But when it comes to playing games or writing an invoice I use my desktop powered by Microsoft. I truly believe Microsoft makes it easier for everyone when it comes to desktops. The PC is a very hard piece of hardware to write an OS for. Look at all the venders that make hardware. There are thousands of them! The HAL(Hardware Application Layer) of the OS is one of the hardest pieces of software to write. Take a class is OS design and you will realize that Microsoft has done a great job. Mac has it easy, They only allow their own hardware. Sun has it easy, they only allow their own hardware. Sure you can get 'Slow'aris running on a PC but only certain cards are supported.

Calling Microsoft the evil empire simplifies the matter too much, there are tons of good AND bad things about Microsoft. Anyone that simplifies the issue too much doesn't understand the full complexity. Nothing is all bad (or evil). Even AOL/TIME has some good in it ;)

littleman

6:18 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)



I agree that MS has been incredibly savvy when it comes to marketing their OSs and software packages; yet, this hasn't carried over to the web very well. In fact I would claim that they have done a very bad on the web. .

I guess they are subscribing to the "if you can't beat your competition, buy it" philosophy, but they will wreck yahoo the way they ruined HotMail.

richlowe

6:28 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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but they will wreck yahoo the way they ruined HotMail.

What on earth could they do to Yahoo to make it any worse?

Richard Lowe

korkus2000

6:40 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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What on earth could they do to Yahoo to make it any worse?

Make it like hotmail.

stlouislouis

7:54 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Richlowe, what do you dislike about Yahoo e-mail?

Could you share some specifics please?

What's wrong with it for personal e-mail accounts
for average web users e-mailing family and friends?

Thank you,

Louis

richlowe

8:05 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Don't mind yahoo email so much except for the spam. Yahoo email is no better or worse than hotmail or any other free email service.

It's yahoo's almost unique ability to purchase a thriving, successful, profitable, highly creative company (such as Geocities, webring and egroups) and utterly destroy them, turning them into mere shells of their former usefulness.

They have done this time after time - in my opinion, Yahoo is a far more destructive force on the internet than Microsoft ever could imagine being. At least when Microsoft purchases a product or company they pay a good price, merge it into Microsoft, and actually come out with a product equal to or better than they purchased.

Richard Lowe

stlouislouis

8:10 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi Richlowe,

OK, thank you very much for clarifying. I thought
it was Yahoo's e-mail you were despising so much.

Thanks again and have a super weekend,

Louis

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