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"Door way page"

Will shooting for Yahoo shoot myself in the foot for Google?

         

ndeavour

2:13 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)



Another "101" question from someone in a perpetual state of confusion...apologies if this is in the wrong forum.
A little background: You folks were very helpful with my last question, hopeful you can be again. Currently I am in the #1 and #3 positions for my keyword phrases on Google :) (nobody could be more surprised or happier than I am, given I don't really know what the hell I'm doing). On Yahoo, however, I place from #25 to #30. The sites occupying the #1 and #2 spots on Yahoo are #127 and #80 respectively on Google. They both use what I think you guys call a "doorway" page. If I follow suit and add a doorway page tailored for Yahoo, will that trigger "china syndrome" on Google? What effect will there be if I create a doorway page and only submit it to Yahoo? Thanks in advance for any and all help.

NFFC

2:28 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Hi ndeavour,

You are dealing with two seperate animals here, the Yahoo directory is not Google and is the first set of results shown. A listing in the directory is essentially "fixed", you can't change it and adding doorway pages will not help.

If it's the site in your profile it looks to be a fairly recent addition to Y! [22nd Feb?], I would hold with the listing you have, you won't beat #1 or #2 but you should rank higher than you are now. I would give it a little more time before you take any further action.

ndeavour

5:05 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)



Thanks for the reply N...it occurs to me that I might not be using the right term when I say "doorway"...Here is what I was thinking:
1) create a new URL using keywords in the domain name and a new title description.
2) Use this as an "intro" home page...then have it go to my regular home page after the introduction. Is this a "mirror site" if the content is not duplicated?
3) submit this as a new URL to Yahoo only...leaving Google well enough alone.
As to the directory being "fixed"...I made a small change on Yahoo a few weeks back and got dropped a full page..is it only fixed when moving up in the directory?
Thanks again

Beachboy

5:24 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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ndeavor:

Probably this should all be moved over to the Yahoo forum, but here goes anyway:

Yahoo is a directory. Directories put a LOT of significance on the use of keywords in URLs and most of all, in the site title. Plus, Yahoo now appears to be utilizing Google's PageRank technology as a ranking factor.

You cannot use a gateway site for Yahoo, since the editor who will review your submission will certainly catch it and reject it. The site submitted must be the actual site, the business name submitted must be the actual business name.

About the only way you have to impact on your Yahoo ranking -- without removing your site and rebuilding it under a different business name with a more useful URL (separated by hyphens) -- is to build Google PR. It appears that will boost your Yahoo directory positioning as well.

Good luck.

NFFC

10:55 pm on May 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>Use this as an "intro" home page...then have it go to my regular home page after the introduction

It's a bit "old hat" nowadays :)

I'd honestly wait a bit, let things settle, Rome [hehe] wasn't built in a day.