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Yahoo.co.uk, ATW and Alta Versus Yahoo.com, Yahoo.it and other regions

Whats up with the .co.uk, ATW and Alta serps?

     

Dayo_UK

1:24 pm on Jun 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For just over 2 weeks now there clearly seems to be two different Yahoo algos in operation.

Permanetly on Yahoo.co.uk, ATW and Altavista is one set (appears to favour losely targeted pages - eg Directories, sitemaps over content pages) while on lots of other regional Yahoos and Yahoo.com (although .com seems to switch between the two though mainly not the .co.uk set) is the other algo.

This is driving me crazy at the moment as most people who use Yahoo in the UK seem to use the Yahoo.co.uk service.

So I have pages targetted at the UK which are number 1 in Yahoo.com, Yahoo.it, Yahoo.dk, Yahoo.sg etc etc yet in Yahoo.co.uk they appear after pages that link to the content, directories and losely targeted pages.

This does not seem to be a geo targetting issue (unless it is a very bad one) as it does not seem to have anything to do with hosting or tlds etc.

3:58 pm on June 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Dayo,

Tell me about it i have lost alot of revenue from this.

Goddam it Y sort it out!

Cheers,

BB

4:33 pm on June 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same here i have lost several no 1 spots in the last 2 weeks at yahoo.co.uk. dropping to now where to be found.

When i check yahoo.com i am still ranked in the top 2 for nearly all my main keywords.

Any ideas?

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Guys stick me to give you some scam urls that rank top at all Yahoooooo's in the most competitive key words.(even with 3-4 domains all the same) travel of course ;)

Dayo_UK

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Yep, it is a strange one - I notice a couple of people have posted at the Yahoo Search Blog too.

Yahoo.com seems to switch between the bad and the good results - the bad set of results seem to be permanetly on .co.uk, ATW and Altavista though - while Yahoo.it, au.yahoo.com and other regions have the good results.

But at the moment I cant access Yahoo at all :( - Although that might be me as Google has just gone down too.

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Many of my .co.uk and .org.uk websites are on US servers and many of them seem to have vanished from yahoo.co.uk although they seem to be very prominent (at leat from here here in the UK) on yahoo.com for pretty competitive keyphrases. What I'd love to know is: are they still as prominent for the same search terms in the USA? If they are not then there probably is a geotargetting issue. Is anyone in the USA willing to help me by doing some searches for me? I'm willing to pay a decent fee, at the moment like a lot of UK people I'm losing a lot of money because of these changes and it's important to find the cause.
12:07 am on June 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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All i know is that one of our sites a PR7 authority site used to rank fine in Yahoo as expected, but since the update its dropped off the face of the earth in Yahoo - no idea why.

Thank God the site doesnt rely on Yahoo for traffic! It also went from its own description to the one in Yahoo directory for some reason for it home page - perhaps this was some kind of penaulty?

Meanwhile, I dont know what they did at this last update but the serps on .co.uk are just plain horrible.

Prior to this update i genuinely thought Yahoo were moving in the right direction, now ive lost confidence again

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Is the site hosted on a server in the UK, or abroad?
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I think that there are several different serps....

there are different serps influenced from geo locations:

searching from Italy I get different serps from

search.yahoo.com
uk.search.yahoo.com
it.search.yahoo.com

BUT if I use an anonymizer software to run Yahoo.com, the SERP is a lot different... ( the closest serp is uk.search.yahoo.com).

If you like to know how you rank on Yahoo in USA you can use an anonymizer software or you can ask to someone living in USA.....

I think that the updated results are on Yahoo USA

Dayo_UK

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I agree that there is some geo-targetting factors in place - it is probably better to compare ATW,Alta versus Yahoo.com (when it has the good set of results)

For me 2-3 weeks ago they would always be virtually identical (I know these supposed to have been slight difference - but for me they always were very very slight)

If you go through some of the regionals though it is very very clear that there are different sets/algos in operation.

I mean why would a UK tld be number 1 in france, denmark, italy, Brazil, Singapore etc but not in the UK, ATW or Alta.

Whether we are still on the ends of an update could of course be the case. It basically looks like some countries are access computers with one set while others are accessing computers with the other set - on .com it is a bit more random perhaps due to load balancing etc?

But the upshoot at the moment is that Yahoo.co.uk has very very bad set of serps - while there are still better sets of serps in circulation.