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Yahoo Update!

We see some movement



12:17 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Update? ANyone else see this?


1:37 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

RichTC, you should post some of the responses to that post about the Model T test....


2:07 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Any discussion about a search involving a single letter is pretty silly.


2:38 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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dreadful search engine


8:06 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A search for a model t kit using the words, build your own model t ford, is not likely the way someone is going to be searching for it. I think it's a dubious test of a search engine, like using a deck of counted cards. By using a random phrase that nobody would actually use, you are only going to find anomalies, like searching for Welcome-and that's generally what nonesense phrases are good for: finding anomalies.

Let's shuffle the deck and use a phrase a searcher is likely to use. A likelier way to search it is to use a phrase such as, "model t kit" with or without the quotation marks. That phrase is off the top of my head. You will see that Google and Yahoo do equally well.

By the way, I just checked and it turns out that "model t kit" shows up in the Overture search tool. The word BUILD used with the words MODEL T doesn't even show up in the overture tool. So, BUILD YOUR OWN MODEL T FORD is basically a nonesense phrase. Imo, nonesense phrases are not good for judging a search engine, only for teasing out anomalies.


8:51 am on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, we moved slightly in the right direction, but I still don't understand all the hype ...

In our industry, widgets for sale is the top keyword phrase: the top two (who happen to also advertise on yahoo) have taken their rightful places (well almost, they 1&3). But there are many marginal sites - seems that if you have widgets for sale in your url yahoo will love you.

I agree that 2 word searches work better, take the "for" out (ie widget sale) and the results improve dramatically.


2:04 pm on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>Hasn't anyone told Yahoo about duplicate-content filters?

I switched my homepage from Google to Yahoo last week. I was getting frustrated with Google's results and wanted to see how Yahoo was doing. Overall, I'm much more satisfied with their results and I'm actually able to find websites that I'm looking for (wasn't always the case with Google anymore).

The first thing I noticed that REALLY bugged me was this duplicate content thing. Some searches returned the same article over and over again. Another thing that bugged me was the frequency that they listed the same website in the search results. On one of my test searches, in the top 20 results one website is listed three times and another is listed twice in the top 10. Hopefully they can figure that out soon.


11:57 pm on Apr 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I usually don't keep up with my results in Y! but I did check some of my top phrases and all I can day is - this sucks!

I search for "service type quebec" and I get results for Costa Rica, Australia, LA, Seattle, Louisianna and Napa Valley in the first 20 results. About half of the results are very generic and have nothing to do with quebec or even canada except for a word being mentioned once. One result is a landscaping business! At least 3 results on each page are *specifically targeting* another location.

Our generic home page comes up before our very specific, targeted page on Quebec as well as one of our quebec sub-pages which currently has no content - just a photo place holder.

Each regional page has all of the on-page factors taken care of including links TO quality resources. No deep links as of yet.


1:45 am on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This update is more of a rollback from last month. Yahoo is getting better. Still some tweaks needs to be carried out.


2:12 am on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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got 1100+ yahoo bots chewing through my forum, something is going on


9:24 am on Apr 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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not much changes to my keywords serps too.....

Out of 10 top 5 are yahoo directory listing and for rest of the 5 2 are spam and 3 are less relative...yahoo still need to improve a lot


8:34 am on Apr 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Did a place name based search (and the name is *really* unique), for "place name B&B" and got Italian furniture manufacturer named "B&B Furniture" (from the Yahoo directory listing by the looks of it) at #1, another local B&B site at #2, empty "on the fly" page at #3, digital camera site #4, linux commands #5 etc. etc.

Other more popular (commercial) searches in my industry bring up a results page that has sponsored results top, tail and RHS, plus a new (to me anyway) "shortcut" feature from Yahoo Travel, directly below the top sponsored listings, pushing organic results almost "below the fold" in 1024x768 screen res.

They can only improve right? ;)



1:19 am on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Finally made it to page one after the frightful fall to page 3 early this month. i'm glad it happened now though. made me backtrack and correct a whole bunch of things. Here's a tip :

When I started correcting that 'bunch of things' I mentioned, I kept a log of every single change I made onpage and offppage. After every change, I waited approx 3 days (seems to me that's how long before the changes take effect), and tweak accordingly.

BTW, can anyone tell me if the results on googlerankings.com and yahoosearchrankings.com are accurate? I seem to notice that I WILL reach the rank they state about 2 weeks later - meaning if I'm currently ranked 12, and I see that they rank me 7, I will reach that rank about 2 weeks later. Is it my imagination or is this the effect of delayed synchronization between Yahoo! datacenters?


4:16 am on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes andrewshim, you are right it due to yahoo datacenters. It dont happen that search engines tell u at what place you will be in SE after 2 weeks.

Also there is one more important factor lies and that is your i.p sometimes Rankings are also get reflected by your country specific i.p wheather its yahoo or Google..

BTW can u tell what kind of changes you have made to improve ur position?


1:49 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing something strange for my site.

It keeps popping in and out of the Yahoo Serps hour by hour. When it is listed in the serps I notice a rdrw1.yahoo.com in the link properties for the link in the serp. Anyone have any idea what this is and why my site would keep going in and out every few hours consistently?


2:08 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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its a weird world of search engines. For my category of product yahoo just liek goole is giing all garbage results with sub domains filling the rankings.

Do you think sub domains are here to stay or they will get removed eventually?

Please do give your inputs.!


3:23 pm on Apr 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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sarahj... first step i took was here at message #70(and believe me... there's a lot to do...)



6:08 am on Apr 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ritz420 there is no doubt that subdomains are short lived this is a short term strategy to get listed with the help of spam.

We can see that even the sub domains which are appearing in serps are some how not matching to what SEs say. IMO it is beacuse if people will find everything in Organic results then who will click on their paid ones ;)

Now we can see only those relevant sites(on some industry keywords only) which are Big old have a lot of content providing information on various topics and a variety of Backlinks......

I can see only this if anybody have different opinion pls share

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