Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 18.104.22.168
Forum Moderators: martinibuster
But then there are other popular searches where the first or second position is occupied by thin content MFA sites, or non-relevant .gov/.edu sites. Yuck.
Is it good enough to be good enough?
What bugs you about Yahoo Search and how would you suggest that it be fixed?
On the sites we work with that rank great in Yahoo they get 70%+ of their traffic from Google, 20% from Yahoo and less than 6% from MSN.
Yahoo, has very little pull in the UK its dominated by Google.
What im saying is that Yahoo doesnt need fixing. Its algo is different to Google its that simple! - Get it now?.
I do know a fair bit about what it likes to rank well in Yahoo from what ive seen of the sites that do rank well, but it means doing things differently SEO wise compared to SEO for Google and thats how it is. What works for Google doesnt for Yahoo, its not using an aged Page rank system giving extra weight based on age and page backlinks
You can winge and discuss this untill the cows come home, either that or look at what is ranking in Yahoo and think about why and then improve your site OR move on and give up trying.
Yahoo is NOT broken
...rather than link to the deeper and more specific pages
You can always add some smarts to your site to compensate for this little deficiency. This is where professionals get some advantage over amateurs; grab the search query, parse it, look up the best landing page for it, forward the user to that page. Works like a charm!
I'd also say they still weight title, domain name and keywords a bit too heavily. I have a complete garbage site that hasn't been touched in over a year with no useful content whatever and it has been #1 in Yahoo for about two years for some rather lucrative keywords while my main site which has excellent content and does major business is nowhere to be found. The stale site is basically www.keywords.com title: "Keywords" Text keywords, blah blah keywords, blah blah keywords.
Totally undeserving of such recognition, yet still #1.
I have no idea why Yahoo.ca has implemented this whereas Yahoo.com's "SafeSearch" is off by default, considering that, overall, Canada is generally considered to be more liberal than much of the US.
The other thing is Yahoo/Overture Canada as per this thread [webmasterworld.com]
I can't remember if I have posted here about how frustrating it is to search for 'widget in state' and get results for 'widget in Florida' when I searched for 'widget in California'. It is usually the first thing I check during updates... the Jan. changes got it right (first time I have seen anyway) for the results I check.
...Yahoo local is fine, even though far from being impressive since their collect accurate data from other means (their directory etc...). This is not really going to help them in true SERP where IMO they are way back and obsolete.
What really is terrible for them is that bandwidth issue, continuously crawling websites and not reflecting what they crawl for MONTHS is pitiful.
I am not saying Yahoo is broken though, I am saying they dont even have the will of making it accurate and technically they dont have the means to keep it up to Google and MSN in the long run.
The only reason why most popular searches show well in Yahoo is because they manually review these sites - That is terrible as well as efficient if you like being told what you must see regardless of its true popularity/relevance.
True: Not Broken
Also True: Not Good enought
msg #:56 2:12 pm on Jan 18, 2006 (utc -5)
Figured out what to do...I've updated my robots.txt entry to slow down their crawl:
One page every two minutes should be enough for them.
It worked at slowing down their crawler for a while, but now they're ignoring it and crawling faster again.