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I'm #1 in Yahoo when I Search from my Machine. Zero when everyone else searches!

Freaky weirdness in Y! Land

         

islandlizard

9:23 pm on Dec 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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OK.... this is really, really freaking me out.

When I search for my keyphrase, my site appears #1. There are no ads on the result page.

When I search through a proxy, or anyone else I ask searches, my site is not listed at all, anywhere, in the first 500 results, and the results pages have ads at the top, the bottom and all down the right hand side.

I have:
Reset my search preferences in Yahoo: No difference
Emptied caches: No difference
Cleared all cookies: No difference

From my local IP address, I *always* see a result set with no ads, and my site #1. Nothing I do makes any difference. But for anyone else - I'm not even listed in yahoo....

Does anyone have any clue as to what is going on?

TIA!

arran

10:16 pm on Dec 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like you're consistently hitting a different data center. What's interesting is the consistency. Are your friends searching from the same geographic location?

arran.

islandlizard

11:55 pm on Dec 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Arran,

I've had a couple of folks locally to me try, and some see the position, others don't.

The weird bit is mainly the *amount* of the discrepancy - the difference between a #1 position, and absolutely no position whatsoever (at least not in the top 500). I'm used to Gogole's everflux, but this seems to be Yahoo's MadFlux!

Its bizarre and I don't know of any tools to check the Y! DCs like there are for Google, so I'm in the dark....

moishe

5:09 pm on Dec 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Have you tried searching via a different browser, IE - Firefox to see if that makes a difference. Also, check you hosts file and makesure that spyware isn't at work here...

islandlizard

5:16 pm on Dec 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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moishe,

Definitely not spyware, as I'm immune to that junk due to a smart platform choice (I'm a Mac user) <grin>

Have tried with

OS X:
Safari
Camino
Firefox

Windows:
Firefox,
IE 6.

Any time I visit from a local IP, I get one set of results with no ads.

From a US IP, a completely different result set, *covered* in ads

From a UK IP, the first result set, covered in ads.

I understand the ads are geotargeted, but the difference in the two core result sets is spooky, there are virtually no sites in the same positions in either.

I'm used to minor fluctuations from DC to DC, but these results are different in every aspect.

I guess no one else is seeing such things.

moishe

6:19 pm on Dec 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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are the other locally who see the same results as you using the same ISP as you?

Some time back I ran into a situation similar to this when Google was first launching their local stuff. I am in Austin, TX and I was searching for a particular KW on Google that included "Austin TX" and my site that is for a business in Austin came up first. The business owner did the same search and found nothing. It drove me nuts. Turns out, his IP address was being viewed by Google as being in Dallas TX so somehow geo-targetting was messing with the serps.

Perhaps you are facing something of this nature....?

financialhost

11:25 am on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ive noticed that Yahoo's results vary from location to location & other factors - this is the main reason why webmasters receive less traffic from Yahoo... its almost impossible to list good for all locations.

But hey... their sponsored listings remain the same per geolocation - country. While organic results can vary significantly inside the same country.

Reason = force webmasters to pay for sponsored.

Good idea, isnt it

angiolo

4:36 pm on Dec 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I had a similar experience..

I am based in Europe and if I do a serach on Yahoo usually I do not see Ads. In the local Yahoo I rank in an excellent way.

If I ask to some colleagues to check my ranking in USA I rank a little bit less.

The new Algo is the Algo that shows you the ads.
You can try to check it using an anonymizer software...

moishe

2:15 am on Jan 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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IslandLizard:
Ever figure it out?

islandlizard

3:15 am on Jan 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Moishe,

I can only presume that the US datacentres simply aren't ranking the site. The non US ones are, and only non US IP's see the site in the results.

Its just very odd that Yahoo! would return results so massively different based on your IP address. In a global world, this seems to disadvantage both site owners *and* searchers, but hey, its Yahoo! and generates so little traffic compared to Google, I guess it doesn't really matter

Maybe one day they'll fix the 'feature'

extremegolfer

9:29 pm on Jan 8, 2006 (gmt 0)



I primarily see two different DCs that show results on Yahoo here in California. However, this may seem simple enough to at least try- have you cleared your cache? Try the search, then clear your cache and try the same exact search again.

ezeevivek

11:07 am on Jan 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just try to search in www.overture.com (for US only) what ever you are seeing is also seen by rest of the US.