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Yahoo Update October 24, 2005

SERP's are wildly shuffling at the moment

         

MLHmptn

3:59 am on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It appears once again that Yahoo is shuffling the SERP's. Am I the only one seeing this ATM?!

Dayo_UK

9:41 am on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)



MLHmptn

Yes, I have been watching it for a while (probably going on since Thursday last week) - Yahoo seems to lose pages and then add them back in again at update/shift time.

EG. During the change - the site page count can drop by a half or more - but by the end it tends to settle back down again (or even increase)

Well that happened for the last two or three shifts/updates anyway. (Well since the beginning of the year I think.) So for people who do a site check and see a lot less pages - dont panic yet - wait it out first ;)

BillyS

1:28 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I' seeing two sets of results. One has about twice my pages as the other. This has been happening for about three days now.

Each day it also seems like more pages are added.

zeus

1:34 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I dont watch yahoo serps that much, but what about the problems they had with only hompage indexed or sites totaly gone from the index do they still have this. Some say they ban a whole ip block if one site on there is a bad one or whatever, but Im not sure here, I dont watch yahoo.

Tigrou

5:51 pm on Oct 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I was wondering the same thing.

Actually I am seeing something really weird: it's like there is a new penalty being applied and some sites are just disappearing while leaving the bulk of other sites in place.

Or is that just the SERPs that I'm watching?

Either way, very frightening, I had totally reordered the url structure on two sites and they disappeared from yahoo (it's normal) but they are not coming bcak this update it seems.

ak47mars

2:35 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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To Yahoo, I'm at a loss already a long time.
I don't understand why yahoo'crawl haven't index my site.
Who can tell me the reason?

[edited by: Woz at 2:43 am (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]
[edit reason] No self URLs please, see TOS#13 [/edit]

Dayo_UK

10:51 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)



Still jumping around like mad.

Tried a search on site:www.webmasterworld.com and it is showing for me less than 200,000 - over the last few days this has been over 300,000 - at about 250,000 and anywhere in between the lowest and the highest.

Aircut

12:22 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i can see that my site title regain its current description from the long overriding directory description....i am glad that yahoo had dumped it

jam2005

4:58 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Two of my sites have disappeared from Yahoo's SERPs. Hopefully this isn't permanent. I'm getting sick of filing requests for review with Yahoo for sites that are clean.

arbitrary

5:54 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey jam2005, do you do link exchanges?

Yahoo consider link exchanges as link farms. Link exchanges can result in penalization in Yahoo - that was news to me about link exchanges.

Tigrou

5:58 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyone notice them picking on sites with a lot of sites "enhanced" with link-vault or digital point?

Dayo_UK

6:11 pm on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)



Well it is weird that Yahoo can do this page halving, then doubling then oohh - just less than a quarter and then back again and virtually no-one notices.

Wish it would settle down soon (at the higher number of course)

Dayo_UK

1:12 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)



Lol - and still very little comment. (OK G update at the same time drawn attention away)

Site search for WebmasterWorld is now down to 169,000 for me - what have Yahoo done with all the pages they indexed?

I said earlier that pages tend to return - but this has been going on for a week or so now.

Unless people think a site search on Y is no good?

However, I am seeing less referrals from less pages.

Hmmmz - personally I think Yahoo are operating on a reduced index and they do this at index update time - but this one does seem to be dragging along.

BillyS

1:51 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo_UK - This is what I see, but as I've mentioned elsewhere here, I am returning from what appears to be a penalty.

I'm flip flopping from about 320 pages (50 in cache) to around 500 pages (200 in cache). These appear to rotate several times a day (at least that I notice).

I also know that the overall number keeps increasing daily for both versions (in terms of pages indexed and in cache).

Dayo_UK

2:00 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)



Billy

Yep - could be monthly update at Yahoo though:-

[webmasterworld.com...] - June 20th
[webmasterworld.com...] - July 20th
[webmasterworld.com...] - August 22nd (although not to many comments on this one)
[webmasterworld.com...] - Sept 21st.

and this one - October 25th (ish) - I think maybe last Thursday

Tigrou

2:22 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yup, if this was a potential Google Update we'd be on our 3rd thread of 54 pages. Google may be dinner, but Yahoo SERPs are a healthy part of anyone's breakfast.

And BillyS and Dayo_UK, you're both mentioning page counts, but I still haven't seen the SERPs shuffle a lot (just the potential new filter I mentioned sinking some sites).

Dayo_UK

2:37 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)



Tigrou

Not sure about the filter - dont know enough sites who use Digitalpoint and never heard of link-vault.

As for moving serps - I dont normally track individual serps - but for page counts just do a site search for site:webmasterworld.com and then do another one a few minutes later.

Jumping all around the place.

otnot

2:45 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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For the past three days Y has shown MY title and discription. But today we are back to the good ole Index title.

Tigrou

3:59 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Dayo_UK.

artdog

6:31 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hmmm

In my neck of the woods zero movement of SERPs.

Dayo_UK

6:37 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)



Perhaps it is just the site search that is pants then :)

Not really talking about serp movement - more number of pages indexed.

Yes, fine if I search on my main keywords - all looks as it should be - but less pages does seem to be less referrals as far as I am concerned (Lol sounds obvious - but just underlining that I dont think it is the site search being iffy - but pages missing)

NoLimits

6:58 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo has been slacking for me for a while. They visit me all the time (bots) - but rarely index my pages. They have tore through over a gig of bandwidth this month and indexed nothing new.

A bit frustrating to say the least.

Murdoch

8:37 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps it is just the site search that is pants then :)

Funny thing about the site: tool with Yahoo (at least for me) is that for every ten results (1 page) you advance the number of total pages drops...

Tigrou

9:21 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I did notice that one of my sites that only ranks well in yahoo is suddenly spinning a lot less traffic my way.

Can't see a chance in SERPs though but maybe it is just some internal pages (as per your page count theory).

CF

Tigrou

10:18 pm on Oct 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"We ran into a temporary problem while performing your search. Please try your search again."

Started running into that on Yahoo. Last time was when they last updated.

CF

financialhost

9:38 am on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The serps are defintely changes...

It looks to me like either pages lost from the index or internal pages now showing the homepage.

MLHmptn

4:14 am on Oct 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am actually seeing three sets of SERPS at the moment. Hopefully Yahoo will drop at least one set of them soon.

Billys,

Are you seeing the same thing?

BillyS

11:35 am on Oct 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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MLHmptn -

The number of pages that I have in Yahoo's index changes almost four or more times a day. They are definately rotating at least two sets of results because I've got about twice as many pages in one set compared to the other.

angiolo

9:36 am on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I note few changes.

What I see is that results are different depending on the localization.

If you doi a search in Europe you have a different algo ( the old Algo ).
Despite that, the database is fresh, only the Algo is old.

If a log on Yahoo.com using anonymizer.com, I got the new algo. The new Algo seems to me similar to search.msn.com: it privilege big sites with a good network of interlinked sites....

thecityofgold2005

4:51 pm on Oct 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I also get this error when using anonymizer to check yahoo.com serps:

Sorry, Unable to process request at this time -- error 999.

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