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I'm seeing a shift in pages indexed...

         

BillyS

5:11 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I figured that I would post this just in case others are seeing the same...

Yahoo! has shut me out starting around July. During that update I saw a large decline in pages indexed, then a sudden reappearance - although these pages went URL only. More recently I've gone from 800 to 950 pages in Yahoo's index (again, most are URL only). However, last week I noticed a drop to around 750 pages and this morning I'm down to 450.

Perhaps they've decided to purge my site altogether, who knows. I'm just wondering if anyone else is seeing large movements in the index.

dethfire

6:31 pm on Oct 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Something is definately not done, most of my sites have been pounded by like 300 yahoo spiders every day for the past week

BillyS

11:38 am on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Again, not sure if anyone else is seeing something downward, but I'm down to 421 pages.

Frequent

1:25 pm on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Minimal, if any, changes here. Looks like the usual small fluctuations for me. (At least for now.)

Freq---

beedub

3:57 pm on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've also dropped a bunch of pages....down to about 1200 pages...it was once about 1500 pages.

However, I've focused mainly on Google the past few years, and have not really been paying much attention to my saturation on yahoo. So for all i know, there is constantly a 200-300 page fluctuation for my site on yahoo. So I won't sound any alarms.

Besides, this might even be a good thing. Because atleast on Google, I've noticed that there is sometimes a drop in indexed pages just before there is a significant jump. Anyone else ever notice that?

jam2005

4:26 pm on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The number of pages that we have indexed has actually increased by about 20 for one of our sites, but the rankings have gone down in the last few days.

linuxguy

4:31 pm on Oct 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Also seeing a lot of movement.

arbitrary

5:08 am on Oct 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing changes in the search results, slowly, and they seem to come and go.

Regarding fluctuations in the number of pages indexed - I have been following the number of pages indexed for a site and I see that number flucuate by as much as 20% from day to day. Pages indexed in Yahoo seem to 'naturally' fluctuate.

BillyS

12:02 pm on Oct 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Something is definately changing - at least for me and it seems that others are suffering from the same type of penalty.

Slurps pattern of 1:1 robots.txt to page ratio changed starting yesterday. I've also got three pages cached now (out of 423). I know that doesn't sound like much, but for about 2 months only the home page was cached.

BillyS

11:51 am on Oct 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This will be one of my second to last post here because it seems like it's only me.

This morning, I've got 7 pages cached, and the spidering activity is picking up. I though others that might have suffered from index removal might be seeing the same, but I also did a reinclusion request. Perhaps this is the result.

arbitrary

5:22 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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BillyS, one my sites has gone URL only and has been that way for a few months. The only page that show a description is the homepage and it shows the description as it is listed in the Yahoo directory. All other pages are URL only.

Odd thing is that this site did (in the past) very well in Yahoo. I let my listing expire in the Yahoo directory and the site was still doing well. After a while, I renewed the listing and a short time after that, the site went south with URL only pages. I am not saying there is a correlation but I would like to know if anyone else has gone URL only after renewing a listing in the Yahoo directory. No conpsiracy theories here but just wondering if there could be some kind of bug in the system.

BillyS

7:48 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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arbitrary - A couple of us exchanged notes on the link between URL only and the Yahoo directory. I never had an entry, but requested one via free inclusion (once every two months or so). The thought at that time was maybe my prompting was seemed as nagging Yahoo and they penalized me (for spamming?). warthog might have more information.

arbitrary

8:30 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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BillyS, I really doubt Yahoo would penalize you for that. I think there may be an unintentional bug between their directory and search though. I emailed warthog, thanks. I also emailed Yahoo asking them why I went URL only in their search engine after renewing in their directory. If I hear back from them ( which I am not expecting to), I will post back here.

warthog

8:50 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)



My site was fine until I paid the $300 for a directory inclusion - I should have never done it. I was getting decent traffic but i thought it would help my overall ranking in all engines.

Once they reviewed it they removed about 100,000 pages from their directory leaving only the home page - they also moved me to the bottom of the Y! directory list (ranked by popularity).

I made some changes and have appeared to have been un-blacklisted - however they havent added any of my pages back in, and It still doesnt come up for keyword searches that it should dominate easily -but they did move me back up towards the top in the Y! directory so maybe its just taking a while to get me back in the SERPS

you can read more about it here
[webmasterworld.com ]

arbitrary

9:38 pm on Oct 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks warthog, and ouch. That is pretty much what has happened to me as well.

I think we need a thread, "Why not to pay for a directory listing at Yahoo."

mfishy

2:50 am on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo is stale...very stale. In fact, we have pages ranking from links removed several months ago (these were the ONLY links). I would be shocked if a "real" update did not occur within the next couple of weeks.

BroadProspect

7:29 am on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yep, yahoo is not moving for weeks now, there is no point in looking for current information in yahoo anymore, looks like they left for a big vocation about 8 weeks ago and forgot to come back ...
/BP

diddlydazz

8:36 am on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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didnt Yahoo! start giving webmasters a heads up about updates?

what did i miss?

results do look pretty outdated in some sectors

dazz

warthog

3:49 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)



i tried submitting a small loimited site map (just 20 pages) and submitted it as a .txt file in the yahoo free submit to see if Slurp would come back - havent checked the logs yet but so differnt results in the SERPS :(

yahoo still hates me

ramachandra

4:54 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Noticed 50% drop in index pages and backlinks count today to some of websites. Is this an indication of Yahoo Update?

BillyS

11:43 pm on Oct 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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While WebmasterWorld was away, results still bouncing around here in Yahoo. I'm going anywhere from 12 to 91 pages with cache.

BillyS

1:27 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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In case anyone was in a similar situation, here is pretty much the end of this story (I hope).

I was shut out during the July update. I put in a reinclusion request and about three weeks later started seeing more Slurp activity. The site has about 1,100 pages and right now Yahoo shows anywhere from 230 to 400 pages in Yahoo's index. Each day these two sets of results add about 5 - 10 pages.

Even with this relatively small percentage of the site in Yahoo's index, traffic is nearly what it was before what appears to have been a penalty. Slurp is now the most active bot on my site and my guess is things will be pretty "normal" in about another month.

Thanks to all for their help and well wishes.

arbitrary

2:32 pm on Nov 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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BillyS, congrats, good to hear the reinclusion request works.