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Yahoo! Launching New Search Index Tonight

according to Tim Mayer

         

andy_boyd

4:30 pm on Jun 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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From ysearchblog:

"This is our second weather report. We will be making changes to the index tonight so you should be seeing more of your pages in the index as well as some fluctuations in the rankings of results from previous searches."

I for one love this open approach that Yahoo have opted for. Tim (if you're reading this) you are definitely scoring points.

mmr82

12:08 am on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I really don't think it's over yet my site sometimes shows up then totally disappear again maybe we should give few more days. I mean I have a legit original website since 2003 and actually it's listed in the yahoo directory. My renewal was few days a go and I got an email from yahoo they mentioned that my site was reviewed again and it was accepted.

So how come when their human editors accept our website, their algo totally removes it? the only thing
left is link backs :-) about 20,000 link back

Plus the yahoo spider hits my website like crazy every day. so are those signs of being banned really dunno totally confused

So let's wait few more days I hope the update is not over yet

Voxman

12:46 am on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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As soon as they started to do their own algo programming, everything went to s#@t.

Ain't that the truth. We used to rule in both Google and Yahoo and as soon as they took over last year everything changed. It was all we could do to not go out of business last year and we went heavy into debt because of it... so I have no love for how they do things at all. Never mind the sites that are well respected and been around for 7-8 years... no concern at all for what they do to them.

As for cross linking? What are you supposed to do when you have sites that are completely different yet may be of interest to surfers on your other site? Not link at all? That makes no sense whatsoever. Meanwhile spammy affiliate and google adsense sites rule them..... most of which only go back a year.

Regarding the results? We used to have about 80,000 pages of product on Google and Yahoo until last year when on yahoo we dropped to 1,100 and stayed there for 10 months...then went up to 1,800 and was there a couple of months. During the last few weeks we've gone as high as 37,800 and as low as 1 . Presently in the 27,000 range. While this is an improvement we can't be doing to well in the SERPs because still no traffic from them worth noting.

We have learned to live (albeit poorly) without Yahoo and until they really do something to impress me...like some respect for sites that have been around a long time and are truly popular (not inflated BS rankings)..I'm not going to believe it.

I said it before and I say it again...they coudn't crawl out of bed

flobaby

1:25 am on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My little lame-ass report:

I've got IE and Firefox open, both have completely different results for my keyword combos. After I posted this afternoon, I cleared my cookies and both IE and Firefox were showing identical results.

After about an hour, Firefox reverted to the old serps, while IE is still hanging on to the newer ones.

Note: the caches look to be the same.

CygnusX1

2:12 am on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing some good changes in the keyword phrases that we weren't doing well in last month.

catch2948

2:30 am on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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catch2948,
Yahoo! has had a travel channel for a number of years which includes a primary travel partner. The relationship with lastminute is purely commercial.

The Yahoo! SERPS do not appear to be awash with pages from <snip> stable of sites for travel related searches.

wordy:

You are right, but it does seem very peculiar that an incredible amount of travel & hotel related sites got hit so hard, it the exact time that this announcement was made ... Seems like a bit more than coincidence to me ...

[edited by: martinibuster at 5:38 am (utc) on June 23, 2005]
[edit reason] no specifics please [/edit]

TonyMc

2:34 am on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have a couple of interior pages that are ranking very well but they seem to have lost my index page completely.

I used to really like Yahoo but lately it's been kind of hard to take them seriously.

--Tony

Trax

12:14 pm on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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no changes for my major yahoo keywords
very strange
there should be MASSIVE changes

catch2948

3:44 pm on Jun 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm ... Tim Mayer's session this morning at The Conference finished about 2 hours ago ... Hoping to hear something positive out of that ...

snuif

10:25 am on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Why even bother mentioning that there is a update , if you dont mention what you have updated.

webhound

12:37 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Was this an update for the travel category exclusively? Cause I don't see any changes in mine.

ncgimaker

1:28 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Our referrals from Yahoo seems to be up approx 20% and still rising compared to same days last week. Not sure if its the result of the algorithm change though, I can't see a pattern in it and don't have enough data yet.

otc_cmnn

4:27 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ahhh - I've been killed!

We were getting 8-10k uniques a day from yahoo across our network. as of about 6PST yesterday we are GONE! Traffic today is dismal... We were fine at first (i posted earlier in the thread) so looks like they are still working this thing out.

Darn - thats a few grand a day I'll have to find somewhere else... hmmm, I heard MSN was making a move...

otc_cmnn

4:55 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Upon close investigation it looks like they have run a dupe content filter.

100's of our sites are practically identical (Domain Landing Pages) and had been enjoying 1500+ saturated pages and 25-100 visits a day from Y! As of 6 yesterday they have 1-5 pages saturated each and no traffic from Y!.

So looks liek this updates is meandering over several days and is not over yet. Hopefully they'll do something about removing cloaked and made for adsense pages. Looks like this latest shuffle should have got rid of many of the scaper sites and content thiefs.

The sites of mine that were in their really had no business being so. But I was glad to get the traffic! Easy come easy go...

webhound

6:35 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Still not seeing any changes at all in my cat's.

Panacea

11:47 pm on Jun 24, 2005 (gmt 0)



I agree entirely. I had a similar experience recently and this problem basically emphasis just how important it is to check the robots.txt file.

RoySpencer

1:34 pm on Jun 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Our Yahoo traffic is now up by a factor of 2-3 over the average for this month, which is good since we were decimated in the recent MSN update.

wellzy

2:11 pm on Jun 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have stayed the same. A few more pages for my main site have improved their rankings. The rest all stayed at or near the top (for now)

wellzy

ramachandra

10:12 am on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Almost all my site pages got indexed, backlinks doubled, but no changes in SERP’s for all my keywords. Anyone noticed the same?

arran

10:22 am on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Almost all my site pages got indexed

Please share your secrets ;)

Depending on the weather, the number of pages i have in yahoo goes from 4-6 (out of ~ 150). Would you mind giving a brief overview of your site - age, size, linking strategies etc. Also, do you have any affiliate links?

Thanks,
arran

BillyS

11:20 am on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here is one story...

Site Age - 14 months
Pages - ~900
Pages in Yahoo Index - ~650
Links in Yahoo - ~1,000
Big jump in Yahoo index on April 1st
At that time had affiliate links
Linking strategy - One ways from directories

Today
Only Adsense on the site
The site appears to be penalized in Yahoo right now, near zero vistors from them. I believe this was due to a site redesign (new template, php site) that I introduced in the midddle of the last update. Site is white hat.

Garya

7:56 pm on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My experience with Yahoo is you need to make as many sites as you can because you never know when you will get a penalty for noe reason.
Soon every site on yahoo will be penalized then what?

zeus

8:01 pm on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Garya - I think you have a point I dont think there is a search engine out there that does more penaltys, then some some SE complains that they have a few more sites in the same topic, but what should one do, if you know you can get baned for no reason, then you HAVE to make a few extra sites.

martinibuster

8:04 pm on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Soon every site on yahoo will be penalized then what?

Last time I checked, the top ten in Yahoo was still there. You saying they're banned?

Garya

8:38 pm on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Of course the top 10 are their, but many other sites are not.

BillyS

10:19 pm on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This latest update has been pretty disappointing from a communication standpoint. There's been several of us that mysteriously disappeared - and I've read the same on other forums.

The blog was not telling us anything we had already been experiencing. More of an after the fact confirmation of an update.

zeus

10:37 pm on Jun 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I remember that I wrote to yahoo and asked them why my site was only listed with the index site, they said they would look into it, then a few days later all sites on that server was gone - it was ecomerce/info/free/blogs all kind of sites, but yahoo has never deliver so much traffic anyway so I was not that mad about it, but ofcause I would like those 10% back.

twist

1:17 am on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[quote]I remember that I wrote to yahoo and asked them why my site was only listed with the index site, they said they would look into it,[quote]

What email address did you use? I emailed them last week about the same problem and haven't heard a thing.

Robert Charlton

8:00 am on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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...you never know when you will get a penalty for noe reason.

For NO reason? You're not doing ANYthing that's the slightest bit suspect? Come on now. Think about it. You might even be able to come up with a long list without any outside input. ;)

zeus

9:07 am on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Robert Charlton - nothing - I have a few sites in the same topic, 2 with core topic rest more concentrated to a specific topic in the same genre, with different design,text,links to it the other site are ecommerce, blogs.

I have NEVER spamed a SE yet, I made the extra site for safty, but as said they are very different.

ramachandra

2:53 pm on Jun 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello Arran,

4 years old site, only changes is page title, meta desc and meta keyword with pages interlinked well. I do have an affiliate page.

I am not seeing any changes in SERP's before and after yahoo update. Any one facing the same situation?

Bye

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