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6:08 pm on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else able to confirm a large change in the Yahoo index today?
8:36 pm on June 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If you're an affiliate, you're gone. I'm sorry, but that seems to be Yahoo's current stance.

That is one of the top five poorest excuses for ranking badly.

The Yahoo guidelines say they want "original and unique content of genuine value." If you read the Yahoo guidelines, they don't even use the word affliate.

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I am seeing some very strange behavior of Yahoo with my site in question that I cannot explain and doesn't make any sense.

Over the weekend all my Yahoo listings disappeared off Yahoo, yet every page on my site is being heavily respidered by inktomisearch yahoo slurp. one after another, even now 72 hours later.

Yahoo search for linkdomain:www.... is also doing some really weird things I cannot explain. The number of backlinks is increasing. It looks like my site was penalized but that can't be if it is being so heavily re-spidered, and my backlinks are growing. Upon checking my webstats, I just saw one Yahoo listing reappear.

If a site was indeed banned or penalized shouldn't all spidering activity cease, and backlinks disappear from the index? The exact opposite is occurring with my site. At first I assumed maybe Yahoo was going through it's version of the Google Dance, then I wondered if my site was being punished.

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That's a great question.

martinibuster - any idea?

Are there any yahooguys roaming around here or are they all in hiding?

This topic seems to be occuring all across the forum/websphere but we're not hearing anything from Yahoo?

Are they conducting a preemptive PR campaign to ensure the roll-out of their publisher network fails?

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>>>martinibuster - any idea?

Yeah, the spider visits are triggered by the healthy number of inbound links, but the content doesn't meet their guidelines. No mystery.

What I'm seeing is some aggressive stuff took a hit but some quality stuff I spend time on is sailing along. I don't like to talk about my personal business in public so forgive me if I don't go into more detail. Win some/lose some.

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I would agree on the content issue if one of my hobby / community sites had not experienced the same thing - It's a totally clean mambo site with nothing but local news, community events, school reports, play reviews, football game write ups, etc., etc. .

Hard to imagine yahooguy hand penalizing a site with unique, local and frequently updated content. No SEO at all (other than mamb sef) and a lot of .edu and .gov backlinks.

Something else is going on and either Yahoo has lost their mind or they are having problems with an upgrade.

I prefer the upgrade theory personally. . .

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I would agree on the content issue if one of my hobby / community sites had not experienced the same thing...

That's interesting. Makes you wonder how interesting Yahoo finds .edu links.

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having problems with an upgrade.

I would say the new my web feature is causing the problems. The serps were stable about a week ago right before they introduced it.

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This morning I have more pages in the index than ever. The problem is that I don't rank for anything - not even a couple of unusual keywords that I optimized for to help detect penalties.

Where is Yahoo Mike?

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This morning I have more pages in the index than ever.

My #pages decreased - i'm fighting a losing battle here.

The problem is that I don't rank for anything

Sometimes when a page is newly indexed there is a delay before it appears in the SERPS.

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I am seeing for my terms lots of spam. They cleared some before this update but now is back again. Also i see some double listings:

keyword1.domain.com on #3
keyword2.domain.com on #4

It looks on the term I am monitoring that blog spam works again on Yahoo. On the other hand for other terms the results are very relevant and good.

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I changed servers and my site dropped out of index. However, my site still is getting spirdered and I don't have the double index page listing that has accompanies every other penalty I received on other sites.

Does my situation sound like a penalty or an issue with server change? There was no downtime of my site when we transferred. However the 301 was not set-up properly (unknowingly) for about 24 hours.

Do I have hope for being reincluded?

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I have never been to convinced about the page count in Yahoo. or Google/MSN for that matter
1:00 pm on June 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Dayo - What do you mean?

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Well whatever my page count the number referrals dont seem to change much.
2:33 pm on June 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well whatever my page count the number referrals dont seem to change much.

I've had this same experience since the April update. Everything is still bouncing around today. I thought they were going to communicate more about updates? Clearly something is changing.

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Man, the one-downsmanship the engines are up to these days is incredible. Google adds a million redirects, so Yahoo adds five million. The most childish subdomain, blog spam redirects are everywhere.
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The mystery continues with Yahoo. I've lost all traffic from that search engine. For phases that I used to rank #1 for, I am not even in the top 600 (I stopped looking after 600.)

The number of pages in the index continues to bounce (intraday) from around 450 to 800. Seems to me that my site remains in the index but has been removed from SERPS for some reason. If I had to guess, they've switched back to the results pre-April 1st update.

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That's interesting. Makes you wonder how interesting Yahoo finds .edu links.

The site I was referring to is back for all kws that I track - it has actually improved on some. I'm not sure what to make of it. I did submit a "why are you doing this to me" question to Yahoo search last Saturday. I don't know if it was related or not as I have not received a reply.

Some of my other sites are bouncing around like crazy. One is completely gone and I wouldn't be surprised if the rest are dropped soon.

This experience is driving home the importance of developing alternative sources for traffic and branding. Depending on organic SERP can be a recipe for disaster.

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All my listings also went after many months at the top, how long did you wait for them to re appear?
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locoblade,

All my listings also went after many months at the top, how long did you wait for them to re appear?

The sites lost their kw ranking last Saturday morning. The one site that is back started ranking mid-morning today.

The others are either still shakey or not there.

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If I do site:mydomain I still get all the pages of the site, so maybe some hope still as mine only dropped on the 13th june
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"The mystery continues with Yahoo. I've lost all traffic from that search engine. For phases that I used to rank #1 for, I am not even in the top 600 (I stopped looking after 600.)"

Same here...I contacted yahoo and got a couple of replies mentioning that I had problems with links at the bottom of my page and a very nebulous response with links to read about their perceived problems with my site (that I've already read about, but can't figure out what they're finding that is a problem) but the links on my site that they pointed to are a _SITE MAP_ for pages on my site that are normally hidden behind cgi. Have done well for several years on yahoo, now I'm completely gone and receiving _0_ traffic from them for something that I can't even figure out to be a problem. Whew...

If anyone here might be able to take a look at my site and see what yahoo is talking about, would you please hit me with a private mail here? I'd muchly appreciate the help/feedback!

Thanks,
Dave

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I lost 60+ top ranking sites today. Very very little interlinking, some are keyword rich, some not, some have keyword rich on page links. All have the same type of BL's = spamy
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Vulcan
Many of my sites also had the site map on the bottum of each and every page.

A superman motorcycle...hmm?

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"I lost 60+ top ranking sites today. Very very little interlinking, some are keyword rich, some not, some have keyword rich on page links. All have the same type of BL's = spamy "

What's a "BL"?

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"Vulcan
Many of my sites also had the site map on the bottum of each and every page. A superman motorcycle...hmm?"

Don't be beingin' the "green stuff" around, Lex! hehehheh...

Dave

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bl= back links

Green Stuff..he he

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Ok...I don't know nearly what I thought I did :-) . What is a back link?

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Dave - a back link (or inbound link) is a link from another site to yours.

Things are still moving on Yahoo - a few of my pages which disappeared 5-7 days ago are back in the index.

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I'm another victim of the recent Yahoo update. One site is gone from the serps but shows many pages indexed when i do the site:www.domain.com

The other site I have, when I do site:www.domain.com, only show my Yahoo directory listing.

From what I have read, it appears that neither of these indicates a major penalty or exile... or how can this be interpreted?

Thanks in advance. Jane-O

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