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9:44 am on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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[yahoo.com...]

Yahoo is offering the chance to view and review their new homepage before it launches.

[detnews.com...]

Yahoo is giving users the option of changing three menu buttons at the top to link to their favorite Yahoo services. And itís further widening the Yahoo search box to accommodate wordy queries, while adding a few new options to confine searches to such specific categories as phone directories.
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Yahoo keeps impressing me these days; I'm worried.
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Another step into the right direction. Started with the My.Yahoo! beta, this is the next of a series of steps to give users the chance of more control.

Wait for the future Yahoo! when you can pick and choose, drag and drop, select and opt-out with all their content.

This is what many have been dreaming of: put the user in control.

12:31 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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NO TABLES! :) And guess what it validates to!
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Impressive! They've done it thrice in this year.
I must say the way Yahoo is playing since last one year, its simply amazing. they've aquired a large no of online brands, be it search engine like altaviasta, ppc engine overture, travel engine Fare Chase...
Beaware Google , Microsoft!
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Does it turn over in bottom line numbers already? How is G doing compared to them, swallowing former competition is not really the name of the game here, is it?
3:18 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How many redesigns - must still be watching the traffic declining!
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'No tables'?

there are a ton of tables being written via javascript.

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Will there be a SERPs change in yahoo with the new look?
4:19 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hmmmm... no support for Safari.... the page says try again next week. We'll see...
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wel it's Yahoooooooo time....these ppl r really impressive...
they everytime do things differently ....wel all u folks enjjoooooooooy n Yahoooooo!
Thanxs to Yahooo for there unmatched services....

KaMran.

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We would love for you to participate in the Front Page beta.

At this time, we do not have the new page programmed for your specific browser. We are working to have the page available to your browser in the coming week.

But if I set Safari to spoof as Windows IE 6 everything works perfectly? So, why exclude a visitor just because you've failed to do any cross-browser checking?

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For quite some time, yahoo has had some lame Firefox support issues. They claim their basic CSS mouseover on the top nav wouldn't work, so they used browser detection to remove it.
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I wonder if someone can explain what's happening with that weird code when we "view source".

Are they mostly using CSS? I *did* notice some table tags in there, but they seemed to be stored in a JS routine of some sort.

I've been intrigued about sites using CSS instead of tables, but is it really even needed? I mean, why re-invent the wheel?

So, why exclude a visitor just because you've failed to do any cross-browser checking?

View source - you'll see they actually are checking.

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The directory is barely visible.

Mack.

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I wonder if this is the project Hillman Curtis [hillmancurtis.com] has been working on for Yahoo!?

Though he can't say.. he does state a "major" redesign.

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interesting....

so much of this is right outta the Yahoo Korea page books. Lots of the new features and look has been standard on Yahoo Korea fooooreeeever (some for years). Certainly, so for its competors out here as well. EG: That "Buzz log. What the world is searching for" section is a such a basic Korean Yahoo element that is accessible from the main menu (next to search bar). It is on all portals here in fact.

Additionally, there are still a bunch MORE Yah Korea elements still not present in that new look that I bet they will get around to integrating in the future as well (like Knowledge Search).

In general, I don't mind being as bold as to say: most of the newest portal area ideas, technology and features, etc you will see in the future will be coming from Asia back to the US (particularily from Korea).

Sure, many of the big ideas are still starting in the US and coming here (like blogs and PPC (bid-based) ads)...but the Korean market takes it all and runs and goes well beyond what you see in the US market in 1/googleth the time (haha). Its one of the things Asia has ALWAYS been best at (copying and taking it to the "next level". Granted that is often a good and bad thing. but that's another story). I've posted extensively on this topic for a while now, so its nothing new for those that hang in the Asia forum.^^

But I've said it once, I'll say it again.....

everyone in the US/english speaking world should prepare for the Korean portal (feature) invasion---in one form or another. (Recent example: Daum just recently purchased Lycos....and I've said my piece on why before).

And if you want a crystal ball (for a good chunk of things to come in the industry -- US side)....just learn how to browse a Korean portals and sites.

No joke.

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oh no it's turning into IWON!
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I have been involved in a lot of usability testing for a variety of websites recently. And the issue of how to display links has been coming up often. In their redesign Yahoo has decided to remove the underline from their link text. Does anyone feel that this will hurt the usability of the site?
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So, why exclude a visitor just because you've failed to do any cross-browser checking?

View source - you'll see they actually are checking

I don't mean browser detection, I mean checking the code -- in advance -- to see how it looks in different browsers. It looks like they coded for one or two browsers, then excluded the rest anticipating problems instead of just excluding for known problems.

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I have been involved in a lot of usability testing for a variety of websites recently. And the issue of how to display links has been coming up often. In their redesign Yahoo has decided to remove the underline from their link text. Does anyone feel that this will hurt the usability of the site?

Yes. On the few occasions that we've tried to launch a site with bare links (not underlined), it was roundly tagged as less usable. Links need to be made obvious, and Yahoo oughtta know that. (Just like they oughtta know how to make a Safari-friendly beta.)

 

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