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What's the fastest you have gotten a new site ranked?

0 to top 5 in less than 3 months...



11:12 pm on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Since Google has the sandbox, I've decided to try an experiment and see how fast i can get a site to rank well in Yahoo.

My definition of ranking well is top 5 for a 2 KW search with over 5 million competing sites.

What's the fastest you have done this?

My goal is to have a brand new site rank at least 20 top 5s in 2.5 months. Do you think it's possible?


8:22 am on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, but I would be interested to hear how you get on. Best of luck!


8:38 am on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can't help but imagine, to do that you must have some DIVINE help of sorts, even as your nickname mentions it. All the best & do give us some divine tips. :)


9:33 am on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't know but I too am hoping for inclusion soon.

I started a new site two weeks ago. I blocked it from all but Yahoo!.

It was known to Google (but not fully spidered) in a day!

Slurp was in there but as yet nothing on Y!

I have got a few in bournd links and have submitted the page (free).

Anything else we should/could do?


8:48 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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To jump start this new site, I have site-wide PR8/PR7 links from non-related sites and about 15 unique site-wide links from PR4-6 on-topic sites.

The site itself is about 500 pages.


8:50 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The site will also gain about 200 reciprocal link partners in the next 2 months.


10:01 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think that regardless of the quality of the site, there is very little that can be done. I have managed to get some links from some very prominent sites in my industry, and the pages that contain the link to my new site rank higher than the site itself for the keyword phrase.

I'm learning to laugh about it now. Pretty much the whole top 10 is loaded with pages about the link to my site. My site is clearly an authority on the topic. There is no tricky SEO stuff going on. I just have good content, and many of the links to my site were added without any sort link exchange or request.

So there are a bunch of articles and pages that contain a link to my site that rank higher than my site. If someone is looking for information about the topic, and they search for the keyword, they are shown a series of articles about my site in the SERPS. Then from there they can find my site.

It's poor SERPS, plain and simple.

I'm still a Google fan, but I'm becoming more reluctant to make this statement.


11:53 pm on Oct 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You can rank pretty quickly on Yahoo! with some good links and on page work. I've also noticed Yahoo loves domain names with keywords in them. Yahoo! can be easy to manipulate but they show fresh and new sites like a real search engine, unlike Google.


7:25 am on Oct 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From my experience, there is quite a bit of luck in ranking well on Yahoo.

I could throw up 5 versions of a website that would pass for unique content and 2 or 3 may stick.

And another 6 months down the line, 1 may disappear to oblivion all of a sudden.

dvduval, I know exactly what you mean. In Yahoo, if there is a problem or penalty, I don't bother trying to fix it. I just crank out some more.

DaveN, don't you know how to game Y? Where you at?


8:14 am on Oct 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Started brand new site two weeks ago.

Google got it in three days.

It just appeared in the Teoma index.

Yahoo! - Yawn..Slurp has visited but as yet nothing.


12:28 am on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google might crawl it, but does it rank? Prolly not, especially for 2 KW commercial phrases competing out of 5M plus.

My formula for ranking in G works well, but it takes at least 6 months.


3:17 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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So what is your formula for ranking in Yahoo and Google.


9:23 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The thread is about ranking in Yahoo, which is mostly about on-page SEO. But to be honest, Y doesn't seem to be that consistent.

As far as google goes, I just use Brett's 12 month plan with additional link building. It's pretty straight-forward.


9:55 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One new site i added a few months back was picked up by Google and ranked nicely within a couple weeks. That is until it got thrown into the sandbox. The traffic almost completely dried up after being in Google for only a few weeks. It's just now after several months starting to get some pretty good traffic again, and all of the pages still aren't back.

Yahoo included about 10% of the site right away, and hasn't included any more of it after several months.


6:01 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Okay, everything is in place.

3 similar websites. Made for Yahoo. 1 is already indexed by Y!. Several high PR links. Several hundred lower PR links with good anchor will be added over 2 months.

We'll see how it goes. My goal is to rank before the holidays. Usually, it takes me more than 3 months, but I have never had a deadline before.


7:22 pm on Oct 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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OK I am with you Buddha. I have a head start (registered) the site two weeks ago. Blocked all but Y!.

If you want to swap a couple fo links to give them a head start I wont mind ;) drop me a mail.


1:16 am on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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that's cool. I don't think I need to swap links and i want the sites to go through my normal link building process.

however, i'd be happy to share the results w/ you. (though not necessarily all my methods)


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