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BIG changes in the SERPS

         

TinkyWinky

7:20 pm on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Recent traffic shows a change in my sites 68,000 pages in Yahoo (Sunday) down to today's 320....

I know there have been some massive changes across the Travel section recently, but this is either a mass SERPs clearout or a penalty for moi.

Any one else had similar experiences in the last 48 hours or so?

zeus

11:40 am on Oct 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Im sure its all about lost pages from a speacial server or folder. The yahoo search hit I had was the only one yesterday, but still it could be that they are making a change again.

hermosa

11:56 am on Oct 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's wierd that all of these sites that have been in Yahoo for a long time are suddenly disappearing. I wonder if something else is going on? I checked the wayback machine and I have had the new domain since 1999 at least. At that time I opereated with URL forwarding to my ISP's server. I didn't host that domain on a server till February this year. Also links couldn't have been a problem as I hadn't transferred my links pages from my old site. Perhaps I shouldn't bother doing that now.

zeus

1:18 pm on Oct 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I dont make any changes to my site, because I think it is yahoo/inktomi problem.

2_much

5:55 pm on Oct 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Either their Spam cop went bananas and is banning stuff left and right...

Or they are having problems with server space and are dropping sites left and right...

In any case, it's not pretty..at all...

A hosting company that I know of lost every single site they were hosting...over 1500...very very very sad, it's a broken company/family.

GameMasterM

6:03 pm on Oct 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"A hosting company that I know of lost every single site they were hosting...over 1500...very very very sad, it's a broken company/family."

Sad. Would they and their clients not be in the Google index? Jeeves, MSN? Good luck to them.
My results are freshened as are two blogs associated with them.

DigiSEO

10:07 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One problem I've seen is if you are dropped from Yahoo! you are also dropped from MSN. They are hand-in-hand.

TinkyWinky

7:27 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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exactly right.... lets hope msn get in the fray sooner rather than later then at least a single ban is not 50 - 60% of traffic lost!

jrs_66

8:09 pm on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"I dont make any changes to my site, because I think it is yahoo/inktomi problem." ... real progressive attitude, keep up the good work!

ichthyous

2:11 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't agree at all that Yahoo and MSN go hand in hand. This month my indexed pages in Yahoo dropped from 1800 to 700+ and my Yahoo traffic has vanished. My MSN traffic has surged this month and is now surpassing Yahoo. MSN only shows very few of my pages indexed in the regular MSN search, but a much larger number of indexed pages in MSN beta. The only thing I can surmise is that MSN is slowly mixing in results from MSN beta to test the waters. Since many people seem to have seen a plunge in their Yahoo pages, wouldn''t that seem to imply that it's just a temporary problem on their end and that things will return to normal? Or am I overly optimistic?

TinkyWinky

2:28 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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blacklist think is simply a joke to me

Better believe it Zeus. I know of 5 different people that all have had the same result of a ban.

However this is where it seems odd:

All of us have had the homepage put back in where we appear in their directory - the other one that doesn't, didn't get the homepage back in!

Slurp still comes through like a dose of salts for all of us, but no pages are returned via serps - this counts for regular MSN search (as obviously using Ink still).

I have over 2,000 real backlinks (built up over 7 years) so there is no other explanation other than a ban.

So whether it is hand-banned, or purely an algo / bot ban that is then placed into a "review" pile who knows. But it is very real.

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With regards to the new beta, yes I have a few thousand pages correctly listed, so when that goes live at least I will get some of the lost traffic back.

Maybe it is broke and maybe all will come back - but depends on just how long it takes for Yahoo to list pages from sites that it has as "new" status.

Any ideas anyone?

cleanup

3:25 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ideas?
Not really the only thing I can say is that if you are gone you are most probably gone for good.

There simply does not seem to be any "process" about it, Yahoo just zaps sites that they "feel" don't shape up or as some others have noted (especially in travel) compete with them directly.

Sorry to be so negative about yahoo! but in all the time since Y! search came on the scene I have yet to read a concrete (and credible) post about getting back into the index.

I suppose it would be easier to swallow if the Yahoo results were in some way better than the rest but they just are not (in my experience).

Perhpas spend your time working for MSN, they seem to be the way to go

ichthyous

4:03 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like everyone is fretting over nothing to me. I got blitzed in March when Google made some algo changes and it took until October to fully recover. Now my Google traffic is stronger than ever. Yes, it does suck to see traffic vanish for 6 months, but hey every job has it's stress. If you offer quality content and optimize well you will get results across the board and any one SE zapping you will be offset by another one gaining. I doubt Yahoo is zapping people for life for no reason. Yahoo can't afford to do that, since people will abandon any SE that does not provide results.

mastervisa

6:41 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From TinkWinky: However this is where it seems odd:
All of us have had the homepage put back in where we appear in their directory - the other one that doesn't, didn't get the homepage back in!

My site has not appeared on Y search results for 120 days. If I searched for www.mydomain.com, all I got was the sites linking to my DMOZ listing. Now when I do that same search, my homepage comes up first, as it is listed in the Y directory. If I click on "more from this site" I get nothing.

ichthyous

7:12 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Could any of this have anything to do with Yahoo's removal of directory sites which haven't renewed their listings? I have had my site in the Yahoo directory for over three years without re\newing. Now all of the sudden my pages disappear AND I get a notice from Yahoo that my directory listing is being removed since I haven't renewed. Hmmm...am I just paranoid?

cleanup

8:27 pm on Nov 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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All my deleted sites are still in the directory where they always were., and on top.

So as far as I am concerned dir listing (or not) has nothing to do with it.

It is curious however that sites that were accepted five years ago quite happily into the directory are now missing asumed lost in action in the SERPS.

As I said above I have still to see or hear anyone making sense of it. A lot of people have been turning it over for a long time now...as far as I am concerned there is no process, no logic, no rules behind it just people..the yahoo! editors and their whims..

I am way past wasting any more time tring to figure it.

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