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seaboy

8:17 pm on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I want to move a site from one domain, to another existing domain, using a 301 redirect to move h**p://www.olddomain.com/page.html to h**p://www.newdomain.com/page.html, but I have heard that Yahoo was having issues with this.
Does anyone know if it has been fixed?

travelin cat

9:38 pm on Sep 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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seaboy, We are still having problems with 301's. All serp's go to a redirected url, not the original. This has been going on for many months. All requests to Yahoo have gone unanswered.

melncali

5:17 pm on Sep 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Just so I'm clear wouldn't you deploy 301's after a site redesign or mod rewrite?

If so, and Yahoo isn't accepting this, what do you do if you are redesigning a site or completely changing your directory structure and naming?

Meta refreshes are considered spam for the most part. Can you deploy the 301's and do a no index follow for Yahoo? This way Google can follow.

travelin cat

5:35 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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we used the 301 redirect to direct viewers to our site using a common misspelling of our domain name, lot's of people do not know how to spell one of the words in our domain....

melncali

5:49 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are you having any problems with Yahoo and your redirects?

travelin cat

6:31 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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melncali, yes we are having problems.... nowhere to be found at all with our real domain and the serps returned to the redirected domain have been falling rapidly out of the Yahoo index.

Out of approx 450 pages and thousands of keywords, we show up in 20 or 30 keyword serps...

Code Sentinel

4:20 am on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does this problem also appy to redirects on the same domain like changing from www.example.com/articles/index.html to /articles/index.php?

jdMorgan

4:56 am on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, but don't confuse redirecting and rewriting. Redirection requires the cooperation of the client (browser or search engine), whereas rewriting is done internal to a server, and is a change only to the filename associated with a URL.

This distinction of URL-space on the Web versus file-space in the file system of a server is completely hidden in pure static sites where the URL is always the same (practically-speaking) as the filename, but becomes clear on dynamic sites and on sites where the filenames or directory structures need to be changed for some reason. A URL need share no common elements whatsoever with the filename it is associated with... That's the server's business -- to translate requested URLs to filenames or to script calls, and this process is normally invisible to the requesting client.

Jim

squallions

12:14 am on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I moved my site from domain A to domain B 2 weeks ago. No change whatsoever. On domain A, I just place an index.html page with a link in there to a new site. No redirection. For the first week, no sign of yahoo at all but google, jeeves, msn show up. After learning about 301 redirect and I apply it using .htaccess and within a week, yahoo show up and consume ~ 6 MB with about ~655 pages. So I guess 301 redirect work with yahoo right?