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2:06 am on Sep 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
Is Yahoo including sites submitted for free indexing. I tried several times with some sites, and yahoo seems to be not much supportive to free submissions.

Also is it worth to promote in yahoo, as Google is no longer using yahoo's directory.

Any advice would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks,
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2:09 pm on Sept 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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oops!

Sorry, I did not see the "for profit" part. My site is not for profit.

6:28 pm on Sept 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Free Yahoo-bot is doing a great job over here. I have a site that is not finished yet so we have no incoming links and have not submitted it anywhere. Yahoo has alread indexed the site and we're even ranking for some decent terms. Still trying to figure out how they found it, but I'm not complaining!
5:01 am on Sept 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,
i have a commercial site which is doing well in google but when it comes to yahoo. It not even cached.
I have this site as a subdomain on my companies name I dont see any problem in the subdomain not being listed in yahoo 'coz i can see that yahoo encorages subdomains also.
I dont understant the reason for my site not doing well in yahoo.
Can anyone help me please.
5:20 am on Sept 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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... you have a commercial site?

Well then - Y! would like you to pay $45 per page + 15c+ per click ... course if you do go that route and stop paying - youll be quickly added to the do not index list!

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Hi arkyt,

Thanks for your mail. Actually the activities carried on in my site are banned in google and yahoo so I cant do a PPC

6:02 am on Sept 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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... you have a commercial site?
Well then - Y! would like you to pay $45 per page + 15c+ per click ...

Not so. Of course, they'd like to get the money but not paying will not by any means keep pages from being indexed and ranking well. And being updated fairly regularly, as a matter of fact. From the looks of it, it seems updates are taking only a couple of weeks.

The index is full of commercial pages that never paid a dime, and they're doing just fine.

6:46 pm on Sept 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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guess they hadnt submitted PFI into inktomi prior to the takeover! Also, I would surmise any site paying for sitematch and then discontinuing to pay will be removed from index and placed on a do not index list.
6:58 pm on Sept 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I had several pages from assorted sites PFI'd via PostionTech and many not PFI'd. All of them made the transition to YST with no major problems. There were some unexpected delays and hiccups in indexing ALL of pages, it wasn't limited to the PFI'd pages.
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I had several pages from assorted sites PFI'd via PostionTech and many not PFI'd. All of them made the transition to YST with no major problems.

Yep, same here. I have to say I was very angry when Yahoo first announced the changes they planned to make. arkyt - I had many of your same concerns. I hate to admit being wrong, but......I was.

[edited by: mona at 10:03 pm (utc) on Sep. 23, 2004]

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I paid $299 for the express inclusion. I'm in the directory but not in Yahoo Search. I didn't know there was a difference. Will I be in the search soon. That's where I want to be. Any input or direction is appreciated
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shotokan, they'll get you - but get some more links if you can.
10:51 pm on Sept 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm new to the whole SEO thing, but have been learning quickly. In the past week I've gottten included in at least a dozen directories and have swapped another 5 links with smaller industry specific directories that come up on the first page of my target keywords. My stats continually double month to month. How long do you think it will take the Yahoo bot to find me if I just got into the Yahoo directory? By the way I got into these directories using strongest links. Has anyone evr used it. It helped me out, but I'm a newbie. I can see growing out of it at some point.

Thanks for your help

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how can i find out what i did to get banned from yahoo.. i'm lost on this one.. great links and good content
11:51 pm on Sept 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You could start with Yahoo_Mike's message 4 [webmasterworld.com].
12:25 am on Sept 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I sent over an email.. Thank You
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shotokan, they'll get you - but get some more links if you can.

...otherwise?

8:37 pm on Sept 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I paid $299 for the express inclusion. I'm in the directory but not in Yahoo Search. I didn't know there was a difference. Will I be in the search soon. That's where I want to be. Any input or direction is appreciated

I had tons of pages for a site I manage crawled in Yahoo and this site has a lot of important backlinks, including a few 8 PR, several 7 PRs, and lots of 6, 5, and 4s [Based on Google PR].

Then I decided to get greedy and buy a 7 PR Yahoo directory listing for this site and went after it, got it, and was happy. But after a few days I noticed all the crawled pages completely out of index. Even using the whole domain name or any possible query does not yield the site in its results, except the directory listing. I checked the logs and it shows that Yahoo is now retrieving only robots.txt file which implies that the site is penalized. The site didn't exist during the Inktomi era and hence there's no question of the "inherited" penalties from Inktomi.

This has led me to believe that if you want a free ride, never pay a dime to Yahoo by means of a directory listing. Of course this is only my opinion, others may differ, and I am not here for an argument.

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My site is listed in the Yahoo search under every key word I want. I thought it wasn't but what was happening yesterday (not today)was it would be in the top 10, then nowhere. Back & forth every hour. Seems like it's there constantly now. The 299 was well worth it. In 10 days from when I submitted, I am listed in Yahoo Search, alta Vista, Excite, and looksmart. Top 3 every keyword+mycity, which is what I'm after. Now I have to bug the ODP.
10:57 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I requested a possible site review, Below is the response from Yahoo.. now I know they " Crawl " sites.. and I'm allowed to pay the directory.. What I was looking for is assistance on how my site with 300+ backlinks ( many in Yahoo ) over 1 year old can't seem to get in . Is there a way to tell if my site will ever get in? or if it is banned

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Search.

Yahoo! Search crawls the web every 2-4 weeks and automatically finds new
content for indexing. If pages already in the Yahoo! Search index link
to your site, it will be considered for inclusion in the next update of
the index. Getting your site listed in major directory services such as
the Yahoo! Directory and DMOZ is an excellent way to be sure that there
are links to your site. For information on all the possibilities please
see our site submit information page at:

[submit.search.yahoo.com...]
Regards,

Yahoo! Customer Care

7:42 pm on Oct 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There is a reason for Y! not putting together the directory listing with the search listing - $$$. Think about it, they have so many revenue streams it makes someone like me insanely jealous. They nail you for the $299 directory inclusion, then to get listed in search you pay the paid listing fee, but every click you pay a CPC fee, then there is your Overture account, have an account through Y! Shopping? More fees, more fees, more fees. Unreal!

Make mine a double Waborita after soaking that in.

CaboWabo

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