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[edited by: DaveAtIFG at 1:41 am (utc) on Aug. 12, 2004]
It is surprisingly quiet here for some strange reasons where penalty is discussed.
There are many sites that are affected by these penalties. We have a big directory site in our area that has been penalised too.
Sorry:- you can check via site:www.yourdomain.com.
I did a check on my logs for it. All of my sites that were currently penalised were visited by that bot at least once every month.
At that time when everyone was complaining about being dropped from Yahoo, I was experiencing a significant increase from Yahoo (about 10% more traffic). Then I got a visit from Slurp spider using 209.131.* range and my site was dropped the very next day.
I lost about 95% of my pages in their index for that particular site.
I checked the 209.131 ip on 2 sites that is still doing fairly good in Y! and it's there. Visited once last month. Also can be found once last month in one of my site that is just removed entirely from Y's index. But on the other site, which is doing fairly well in Y!, I couldn't find that IP.
So, I'm not sure about your theory.
I too have lost over 80% of my traffic. I have no idea why, but none of my pages are indexed in Yahoo.
I did not see a gradual decrease. Literally overnight, my traffic stopped. Aug 10th-11th.
Does anyone have an idea if they penalize the IP that the domain is using, or the domain?
I find it hard to believe that they penalize the domain forever. What if I were to sell the domain 2-3 years from now. Would that new owner be penalized as well? You can imagine the HUGE number of sites that would never get back in the SERPS becasue of previous owners. Especially YEARS down the road.
It sucks that the SE's are the GODS. Just wish there was a way to determine what we did wrong, why, how, etc.
It seems Yahoo penalizes IP addresses. I had many webs with the same IP and got penalized over the line. Now there are three months and I have split up into separate IP, changed servers, cleaned up all possible errors according to Y! guidelines, boy I have done everything possible, but not a single page have re-entered the index.
I have also created a new web, very typical keyword based, listed with Y! directory and within few days it was entirely into Y! serps. This new web is on a new IP address of course.
There you have it. Forget about re-entering Y! index in the near future, create new webs or mirror of your old one, similar to what Google used to like 2 years back, put some old fashioned SEO into it and you will skyrocket again in Yahoo!
Yahoo is so easy to manipulate these days and they can not penalize all websites in their index.
I am still waiting for webmasters to act on Yahoo as they once did with "mother of all Engines" Google. Yahoo will never be close to Google in all aspects, serps, customer relations, support, information to webmasters etc.,
Yahoo knows how to chicken out and they have done so with a lot of webmasters.
P.s. Forgot to mention. SiteMatch is a waste of time and money. You will never get anything from it. Use the money to create new webs instead.
If you had no traffic from Ink partner sites before YST was deployed, that may indicate you inherited an Ink penalty.
Let's keep it "on topic" folks. Thanks! :)
I found yahoo! slurp started to crawl that site the next day I made the modification. There are more than 200 hits since then. But my site still cannot find in yahoo.
Does anybody have an idea on when yahoo! will recache the modified banned site(assume the site is a clean site to yahoo)?
so recent spidering does not mean you are about to be unbanned....perhaps it means they realised without spidering there was no way to know if you had fixed your problems..perhaps it means they need to look like they care....either way trying to find logic in the ban process is a bit like applying science without the chaos theory...pointless...chaos says that things happen in a random manner..if you didnt know that you could spend your life trying to find a golden rule when in actual fact there isnt one...
I have a site that is penalized but should not be IMHO. I have considered taking the necessary steps to unpenalize it, email Yahoo!, make changes, etc. but I have significant proof for my business that being found in Yahoo! isn't that big of deal compared to being found in Google.